Questions for Theists: God and Time
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03-07-2013, 06:53 AM
Questions for Theists: God and Time
If I understand it correctly, christianity states that "God is timeless, . . . not bound by time, . . . sees all time."

So my question is, . . . . . Can god see what's going on in the year 1581 . . . like . . . . right now?

How about the year 2015?
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03-07-2013, 07:08 AM
RE: Questions for Theists: God and Time
Gods can't see.
They are like moles.
Their eyes are vestigial.
For more complete information see "mole facts".
http://molepro.com/pages/mole-facts

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03-07-2013, 07:12 AM
RE: Questions for Theists: God and Time
If the universe is essentially a four-dimensional solid that includes all of space and time then a being that is free to move in other dimensions could "look" at 1581 and potentially modify the solid at that point in time. Perhaps the solid itself is free to move and change in other dimensions and could be manipulated in ways that modify its final shape into a shape that it did not always hold.

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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03-07-2013, 08:47 AM
RE: Questions for Theists: God and Time
Does it make "god" . . . "less perfect" if it is unable to see the future?
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03-07-2013, 09:06 AM
RE: Questions for Theists: God and Time
Yes.

God can see all, even the things that are in non-existence.

ie:
alternate paths that could have been taken in history and their congruent past, present, and future

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03-07-2013, 09:15 AM
RE: Questions for Theists: God and Time
(03-07-2013 09:06 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  Yes.

God can see all, even the things that are in non-existence.

ie:
alternate paths that could have been taken in history and their congruent past, present, and future

But, how can a thing that doesn't exist, see a thing that doesn't exist? Consider

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03-07-2013, 09:36 AM
RE: Questions for Theists: God and Time
Thanks kingschosen. So, . . . if this god makes a statement at one point in time, it is relevant for all points in time.
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03-07-2013, 09:42 AM
RE: Questions for Theists: God and Time
(03-07-2013 06:53 AM)DeavonReye Wrote:  If I understand it correctly, christianity states that "God is timeless, . . . not bound by time, . . . sees all time."

So my question is, . . . . . Can god see what's going on in the year 1581 . . . like . . . . right now?

How about the year 2015?

Didn't you know the imaginary god can do anything ?
Anything that WE can imagine that is.

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03-07-2013, 10:05 AM
RE: Questions for Theists: God and Time
(03-07-2013 09:15 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(03-07-2013 09:06 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  Yes.

God can see all, even the things that are in non-existence.

ie:
alternate paths that could have been taken in history and their congruent past, present, and future

But, how can a thing that doesn't exist, see a thing that doesn't exist? Consider

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03-07-2013, 01:12 PM
RE: Questions for Theists: God and Time
Why do you phrase it like that? As if God has eyes, or needs them, or ears to hear with. If there were a" god" that you describe, I would think he doesn't see, but knows. If you are in all dimensions I don't think it is physically(even in the spiritual sense) . Images and descriptions of that being are only in man's image, because that is the only way we can define it. If there is a god, it seems to be short-changing him to define him in those terms.
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