Radical Feminism
Post Reply
 
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Votes - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
12-08-2014, 08:27 AM
RE: Radical Feminism
(12-08-2014 07:20 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(11-08-2014 11:45 PM)morondog Wrote:  No, assholes ruined feminism by falsely portraying the movement as way more radical than it actually is.

Both. There really are vile rad-fems, and there really is too much attention paid to them.

Yep.

Theodore Roosevelt Wrote:Among the wise and high-minded people who in self-respecting and genuine fashion strive earnestly for peace, there are the foolish fanatics always to be found in such a movement and always discrediting it — the [wo]men who form the lunatic fringe in all reform movements.

... this is my signature!
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
13-08-2014, 01:20 AM
RE: Radical Feminism
Ahaha, I think we just spent several posts repeating what I said Tongue

“Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.

-Christopher Hitchens
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
13-08-2014, 02:32 AM
RE: Radical Feminism
(13-08-2014 01:20 AM)Just Another Atheist Wrote:  Ahaha, I think we just spent several posts repeating what I said Tongue

No we didn't.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
13-08-2014, 02:43 AM
RE: Radical Feminism
Thats because you didn't say anything.


I specifically said many rad fems (and to be honest, I think I'm equivocating on the word rad fem. I specifically mean feminazis) do make feminism look bad. These are the equivalent to "assholes". Id say they are synonymous.


Personally, I don't identify as a feminist but it doesn't mean I'm against everything feminism stands for.

“Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.

-Christopher Hitchens
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Just Another Atheist's post
13-08-2014, 04:33 AM
RE: Radical Feminism
(13-08-2014 02:43 AM)Just Another Atheist Wrote:  I specifically said many rad fems (and to be honest, I think I'm equivocating on the word rad fem. I specifically mean feminazis) do make feminism look bad. These are the equivalent to "assholes". Id say they are synonymous.

Radical feminist assholes are not the problem IMO. It's misogynist dick assholes who portray the entire feminist movement as being composed of radical feminists. I have met some radical feminists in my life and ja, like every other tinfoil hat wearer they are pretty horrible, but there are *few* of them. They mostly repulse everyone, including the more moderate feminists. But the big victory for the misogynist dick brigade has been that somehow they've managed to implant the idea that *all* feminism is of the 'castrate men and take their jobs' variety.

We'll love you just the way you are
If you're perfect -- Alanis Morissette
(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 6 users Like morondog's post
13-08-2014, 09:40 AM
RE: Radical Feminism
(13-08-2014 04:33 AM)morondog Wrote:  Radical feminist assholes are not the problem IMO. It's misogynist dick assholes who portray the entire feminist movement as being composed of radical feminists. I have met some radical feminists in my life and ja, like every other tinfoil hat wearer they are pretty horrible, but there are *few* of them. They mostly repulse everyone, including the more moderate feminists. But the big victory for the misogynist dick brigade has been that somehow they've managed to implant the idea that *all* feminism is of the 'castrate men and take their jobs' variety.
Pretty much this.

As you go through life you begin to see that all groups of people, whether it's based on gender, orientation, nationality, religion, political affiliation, etc., have their individuals and fringe groups that are just asshats.
They fly the flag of whatever that group is and use it as an excuse to do what they want.
But, they don't represent that group as a whole. Generally, you have to find any official portals for that group and see what they really say their mission or ideology is, instead of youtube or third party forums.

[Image: fdyq20.jpg]
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 2 users Like LostLocke's post
27-08-2015, 11:22 PM
RE: Radical Feminism
Just to set things straight. Radical feminism is by definition porn abolitionist, prostitution abolitionist, and gender abolitionist. This means that radical feminists do not "hate" porn stars or prostitutes or trans*gender people... However, radical feminism does not buy into the koolaid that gender stereotypes are innate, rather, the position is that gender stereotypes are learned in a patriarchal society, by patriarchal parents, and generally religious stiff gendered parents.
There is no such thing as a "trans exclusionary"... anything. Gender is but a bunch of learned sexist (2-way) stereotypes, and radical feminism is about the abolition of the patriarchal system of gender stereotypes.
Those three tenets are the very foundation of radical feminism, to eschew that pretty much goes against radical feminism.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
27-08-2015, 11:28 PM
RE: Radical Feminism
Radical feminism has nothing to do with the general idea of extreme feminism. Radical feminism actually precedes modern day feminism which is named Third Wave Feminism. Radical Feminism was the dominant form of Second Wave feminism, and the "radical" does not mean extreme, it means going to the "root" of the problem. The "root" of the problem for basic feminism should be patriarchy, but liberal (neo-liberal) feminists have looked away from combating patriarchy and instead have decided to just agree with patriarchal society and make the best of it. Radical feminism is actually concerned with changing society, instead of longing to have what males have.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes NorthernTNT's post
28-08-2015, 06:10 AM (This post was last modified: 28-08-2015 06:04 PM by epronovost.)
RE: Radical Feminism
(27-08-2015 11:22 PM)NorthernTNT Wrote:  Just to set things straight. Radical feminism is by definition porn abolitionist, prostitution abolitionist, and gender abolitionist. This means that radical feminists do not "hate" porn stars or prostitutes or trans*gender people... However, radical feminism does not buy into the koolaid that gender stereotypes are innate, rather, the position is that gender stereotypes are learned in a patriarchal society, by patriarchal parents, and generally religious stiff gendered parents.
There is no such thing as a "trans exclusionary"... anything. Gender is but a bunch of learned sexist (2-way) stereotypes, and radical feminism is about the abolition of the patriarchal system of gender stereotypes.
Those three tenets are the very foundation of radical feminism, to eschew that pretty much goes against radical feminism.

While I agree with most of your post, has a radical feminist, I can assure you that we are not porn abolitionist neither am I prostitution abolitionist. I am opposed to certain practice and representation in the porn industry, not the entire industry. I mostly opposed the treatment of many actress, revenge porn and the quasi universal humliative practice against women in porn even in non-niche subtypes. In the saim vein, I am opposed to prostitution for all those women who use it has last resort against absolute poverty or are simply conned or enslaved into it. These two groups regroup an awful lot of prostitute. For the rest of your post, I thought it was pretty well said.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 2 users Like epronovost's post
Post Reply
Forum Jump: