Rampant and Jeremy and the Kalam
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25-05-2014, 09:51 AM
RE: Rampant and Jeremy and the Kalam
(25-05-2014 09:32 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(24-05-2014 11:01 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  "Different societies which have progressed independently still adopt a strikingly similar core set of moral values (i.e. with respect to lying, theft, murder, etc.). History is pretty clear on this."

"I never made this claim. But since you think I have, simply reference it"


Dude has dementia.

LOL -- first of all, this generalization that "different societies adopt a 'strikingly similar core set of moral values'" is not only an overly broad and fallacious generalization, it's a lie as well. For it to be relevant in a claim of "objective moral values", then ALL societies EVERYWHERE would have to develop EXACTLY the same "values", right down the line. There would be NO NEED for laws, as every person everywhere would hold to the same "moral values and duties" naturally, on their own, and without any "outside" suggestion or influence.

There would be no wars, no political conflict, no nations, nothing to divide us by ideology, because everyone on the planet would all hold exactly the same values.

You only have to compare far Eastern religions such as Buddhism with the Abrahamic faiths to see a very stark difference in moral priorities.

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25-05-2014, 09:59 AM
RE: Rampant and Jeremy and the Kalam
(25-05-2014 09:51 AM)Sam Wrote:  
(25-05-2014 09:32 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  LOL -- first of all, this generalization that "different societies adopt a 'strikingly similar core set of moral values'" is not only an overly broad and fallacious generalization, it's a lie as well. For it to be relevant in a claim of "objective moral values", then ALL societies EVERYWHERE would have to develop EXACTLY the same "values", right down the line. There would be NO NEED for laws, as every person everywhere would hold to the same "moral values and duties" naturally, on their own, and without any "outside" suggestion or influence.

There would be no wars, no political conflict, no nations, nothing to divide us by ideology, because everyone on the planet would all hold exactly the same values.

You only have to compare far Eastern religions such as Buddhism with the Abrahamic faiths to see a very stark difference in moral priorities.
Yeah, and Michael contrasted general US reactions to adultery with the Sharia death penalty, and Jermy tried and failed to special plead his way out of it, trying to claim that condemnation of "adultery" is universal (which it isn't), and trying to dismiss Michael's actual point that the extreme vs. not-so-extreme reaction to marital infidelity is ALSO a moral value/"duty".

It's Special Pleadings all the way down!


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25-05-2014, 10:05 AM
RE: Rampant and Jeremy and the Kalam
Just throwing this glove out there for Jeremy so he has more chance to see it.

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25-05-2014, 10:17 AM
RE: Rampant and Jeremy and the Kalam
(25-05-2014 10:05 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  Just throwing this glove out there for Jeremy so he has more chance to see it.

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...-is-no-God

Will be interesting to see what happens. He hasn't posted since he fled the Ring, but he was here lurking early this morning.


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25-05-2014, 10:22 AM
RE: Rampant and Jeremy and the Kalam
(25-05-2014 10:17 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(25-05-2014 10:05 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  Just throwing this glove out there for Jeremy so he has more chance to see it.

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...-is-no-God

Will be interesting to see what happens. He hasn't posted since he fled the Ring, but he was here lurking early this morning.


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Guessing he will




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25-05-2014, 10:26 AM
RE: Rampant and Jeremy and the Kalam
(25-05-2014 10:22 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(25-05-2014 10:17 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Will be interesting to see what happens. He hasn't posted since he fled the Ring, but he was here lurking early this morning.


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--- Like D-Wreck did!

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25-05-2014, 11:12 AM
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It's possible that he's at church dosing up on righteousness and fervour.
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25-05-2014, 11:42 AM
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(25-05-2014 11:12 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  It's possible that he's at church dosing up on righteousness and fervour.

Naaaaaahhhhh....He's fled to his home territory now over posting getting his sorry ass kicked at Christianforums.com:


http://www.christianforums.com/t7824118-7/

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25-05-2014, 11:55 AM
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This Jeremy is pathetic . He needs getting fucked in the ass by a blue whale cock .
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25-05-2014, 12:25 PM
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(25-05-2014 11:42 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(25-05-2014 11:12 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  It's possible that he's at church dosing up on righteousness and fervour.

Naaaaaahhhhh....He's fled to his home territory now over posting getting his sorry ass kicked at Christianforums.com:


http://www.christianforums.com/t7824118-7/

Ewwwww....

Which way to the decontamination chamber? Ick ick ick....

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