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25-07-2013, 08:48 AM
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Yeah I'm not a fan. The royals are like and institutionalized version of the Hiltons. The cult of celebrity is wasted on celebrities.

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25-07-2013, 09:10 AM
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(25-07-2013 07:21 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Because most royalty are figureheads who serve no actual purpose. Drinking Beverage

(25-07-2013 07:28 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  Pretty much why I don't like them.

That and the fact that any time they do something, it clogs the media here something fierce; they are popular and covered in media while having absolutely no claim to fame outside being born in to the right archaic relic-from-an-age-gone-by of a 'family'.

(25-07-2013 08:48 AM)ridethespiral Wrote:  Yeah I'm not a fan. The royals are like and institutionalized version of the Hiltons. The cult of celebrity is wasted on celebrities.

That the media is soul-crushingly, mindlessly shallow and awful isn't their fault. They're so utterly harmless!

Having a figurehead for a head of state lets them take care of all the pomp and circumstance and ceremony, and lets the actual head of government spend their time, y'know, governing...

Besides, what's the alternative? Yet another goddamn politician? Rolleyes

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25-07-2013, 09:22 AM
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(25-07-2013 09:10 AM)cjlr Wrote:  
(25-07-2013 08:48 AM)ridethespiral Wrote:  Yeah I'm not a fan. The royals are like and institutionalized version of the Hiltons. The cult of celebrity is wasted on celebrities.

That the media is soul-crushingly, mindlessly shallow and awful isn't their fault. They're so utterly harmless!

Having a figurehead for a head of state lets them take care of all the pomp and circumstance and ceremony, and lets the actual head of government spend their time, y'know, governing...

Besides, what's the alternative? Yet another goddamn politician? Rolleyes

The United States does not have an institutionalized figurehead and it seems to do quite fine. Drinking Beverage

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25-07-2013, 09:24 AM
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(25-07-2013 09:22 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(25-07-2013 09:10 AM)cjlr Wrote:  That the media is soul-crushingly, mindlessly shallow and awful isn't their fault. They're so utterly harmless!

Having a figurehead for a head of state lets them take care of all the pomp and circumstance and ceremony, and lets the actual head of government spend their time, y'know, governing...

Besides, what's the alternative? Yet another goddamn politician? Rolleyes

The United States does not have an institutionalized figurehead and it seems to do quite fine. Drinking Beverage

Not since Johnny Carson. Drinking Beverage

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25-07-2013, 09:30 AM
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(25-07-2013 09:10 AM)cjlr Wrote:  
(25-07-2013 07:21 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Because most royalty are figureheads who serve no actual purpose. Drinking Beverage

(25-07-2013 07:28 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  Pretty much why I don't like them.

That and the fact that any time they do something, it clogs the media here something fierce; they are popular and covered in media while having absolutely no claim to fame outside being born in to the right archaic relic-from-an-age-gone-by of a 'family'.

(25-07-2013 08:48 AM)ridethespiral Wrote:  Yeah I'm not a fan. The royals are like and institutionalized version of the Hiltons. The cult of celebrity is wasted on celebrities.

That the media is soul-crushingly, mindlessly shallow and awful isn't their fault. They're so utterly harmless!

Having a figurehead for a head of state lets them take care of all the pomp and circumstance and ceremony, and lets the actual head of government spend their time, y'know, governing...

Besides, what's the alternative? Yet another goddamn politician? Rolleyes

I'm just sayin' their fame and 'importance' is totally undeserved, their existence (Royal families I mean) is as far I am concerned, very out-dated and there is no good reason to keep them around in their ineffectual station of tradition. Aside from tourism revenue, but I get the feeling they could replace them with shitty museum animatronic dummies waving to the crowd...

(25-07-2013 09:22 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(25-07-2013 09:10 AM)cjlr Wrote:  That the media is soul-crushingly, mindlessly shallow and awful isn't their fault. They're so utterly harmless!

Having a figurehead for a head of state lets them take care of all the pomp and circumstance and ceremony, and lets the actual head of government spend their time, y'know, governing...

Besides, what's the alternative? Yet another goddamn politician? Rolleyes

The United States does not have an institutionalized figurehead and it seems to do quite fine. Drinking Beverage

"quite fine" being highly subjective and relative terms in reference to the 'United' States....

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25-07-2013, 09:31 AM
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(25-07-2013 09:22 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  The United States does not have an institutionalized figurehead and it seems to do quite fine. Drinking Beverage

Yes. "Doing quite fine" is exactly how I'd characterize the American political system.

Ahem.

What actually happens is that the President wastes buckets of time presiding over random shit (the likes of which our PM can fob off to the Governor General) instead of his actual job (which is poorly defined regardless, being head of state but only quasi head of government).

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25-07-2013, 09:48 AM
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Don't see why there's even an issue...at least William and Kate aren't famous for some big scandal. The aren't famous for a porn film, multiple stints in rehab, or for generally being jerks. They are members of the royal family and seem like nice people. I am glad the baby seems to be doing well as well as the mom. It makes me a little sad that Diana didn't live to see this day.

Funny to me that the baby has the same name as HoC's dog though.

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25-07-2013, 09:49 AM
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(25-07-2013 09:31 AM)cjlr Wrote:  Yes. "Doing quite fine" is exactly how I'd characterize the American political system.

Ahem.

What actually happens is that the President wastes buckets of time presiding over random shit (the likes of which our PM can fob off to the Governor General) instead of his actual job (which is poorly defined regardless, being head of state but only quasi head of government).

The U.S political system is doing no worse than the majority of governments where a royal figurehead is in place.

Ahem.

The president's function is to control and appoint members of the federal cabinet, make laws official, to negotiate foreign treaties, and to act as command and chief of the U.S armed forces. In effect, that is what the president does. Whether or not his decisions inhibit progress is irrelevant. The majority of time wasting is done in congress.

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25-07-2013, 09:56 AM
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(25-07-2013 09:49 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  The U.S political system is doing no worse than the majority of governments where a royal figurehead is in place.

... really? I wouldn't say Spain's got them beat, but...

(25-07-2013 09:49 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  The president's function is to control and appoint members of the federal cabinet, make laws official, to negotiate foreign treaties, and to act as command and chief of the U.S armed forces. In effect, that is what the president does. Whether or not his decisions inhibit progress is irrelevant. The majority of time wasting is done in congress.

Right. That's his (or her Rolleyes ) official function. There is a lot of ceremonial role besides. And you know as well as I do that they're expected and/or perceived to have a much greater role in domestic policy than is actually mandated.

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25-07-2013, 10:33 AM
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Damn. I was going to bitch about something but then I had a cup of coffee & I'm pretty sure I don't give a fuck about whatever it was that pissed me off. Hope the caffeine holds out. Drinking Beverage

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