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17-05-2012, 05:13 PM
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For every bad Comic book movie there is a good one, and usually some you weren't aware were comic books first.

Check this shit out.

Also keep in mind there are things that are subjectively bad and things that are so widely regarded as bad that you can pretty well accept it as bad. I noticed the Batmans you put forth were the Joel Schumaker pieces of filth. Universally accepted as bad. Though some are beginning to say that they are so bad they are good, and I disagree.
The Tim Burton and Christopher Nolan films didn't make your list.

Not liking Iron Man bothers me the most. It's a genuinely good movie so far as I'm concerned. It's one of those movies that I thought anyone could like, fan or not. I suppose I was mistaken. I wonder what you would think of Sin City. It's usually regarded well by fans, and by artsy fartsy people, but no one else. I love it, but can see why people wouldn't.

Also Ghost World is not your typical comic book movie. Check it out.

there's no way in hell Punisher is the worst movie ever made. No fucking way. I call your bluff. Also Ghost Rider was by far worse.
Glitter anyone?

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18-05-2012, 09:49 AM
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Which Punisher?

The new Ghost Rider looks pretty good. Another curious Marvel move by keeping ol' Nick as Ghost Rider and not doing a reboot. I have a feeling that these other studios had some type of contract so Marvel can't go all "Let's reboot everything" on them.

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18-05-2012, 10:11 AM
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I liked Ghost World. I read the comic years ago and thought they did a pretty good job with pace and characterization. Yes

I kind of liked that Sin City... the framed up, short story style and the film quality was more comic book homage, and that was what carried it as a movie... which seemed to work fine. It turned out to be better than I thought it would be.

The only superhero type comic I was into was Silver Surfer.... but I didn't see what they did with him in the Fantastic Four movie. I think he would need his own film... which would be depressing... he was always whining about something. Shy

I suppose I'll have to catch that Fantastic Four on DVD... what am I about 5 years behind? Confused Laughat

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18-05-2012, 10:41 AM
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Silver Surfer without proper Galactus makes this comic book nerd deeply disturbed.

I won't spoil it for ya though. Go watch the movie and cry with me. Weeping

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18-05-2012, 10:55 AM (This post was last modified: 18-05-2012 10:59 AM by germanyt.)
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(17-05-2012 05:13 PM)lucradis Wrote:  For every bad Comic book movie there is a good one, and usually some you weren't aware were comic books first.

Check this shit out.

Also keep in mind there are things that are subjectively bad and things that are so widely regarded as bad that you can pretty well accept it as bad. I noticed the Batmans you put forth were the Joel Schumaker pieces of filth. Universally accepted as bad. Though some are beginning to say that they are so bad they are good, and I disagree.
The Tim Burton and Christopher Nolan films didn't make your list.

Not liking Iron Man bothers me the most. It's a genuinely good movie so far as I'm concerned. It's one of those movies that I thought anyone could like, fan or not. I suppose I was mistaken. I wonder what you would think of Sin City. It's usually regarded well by fans, and by artsy fartsy people, but no one else. I love it, but can see why people wouldn't.

Also Ghost World is not your typical comic book movie. Check it out.

there's no way in hell Punisher is the worst movie ever made. No fucking way. I call your bluff. Also Ghost Rider was by far worse.
Glitter anyone?
Wanna know what pissed me off about Iron Man? The fact that this guy managed to build the initial suit from scrap metal in the desert. And only after designing the most incredilbe medical breakthrough the world has known. This guy could be a noble prize winner but couldn't seem to build anything until he was stranded in the desert. I call BS on the entire premise that he could have actually lived and built the suit.

And Punisher cemented itself on the bottom rung when he tied Travolta to the car and bombed them in the shape of the Punisher logo. Horrible! All the idiots in the theater started clapping when that happened. I also felt that the interaction between the main character and the people that lived in the apartment building added nothing to the film. It was filler. Which basically made the movie 2 hours of poorly scripted filler followed by the cheesiest ending I've ever seen in a movie. Except for maybe Van Helsing. That was awful too.

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18-05-2012, 10:56 AM
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(18-05-2012 10:11 AM)kim Wrote:  I liked Ghost World. I read the comic years ago and thought they did a pretty good job with pace and characterization. Yes

I kind of liked that Sin City... the framed up, short story style and the film quality was more comic book homage, and that was what carried it as a movie... which seemed to work fine. It turned out to be better than I thought it would be.

The only superhero type comic I was into was Silver Surfer.... but I didn't see what they did with him in the Fantastic Four movie. I think he would need his own film... which would be depressing... he was always whining about something. Shy

I suppose I'll have to catch that Fantastic Four on DVD... what am I about 5 years behind? Confused Laughat
I love Sin City. But that's a graphic novel and it was made with very, very good actors. It's also filmed in such a way that sets it apart from any mainstream super hero movie.

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18-05-2012, 11:40 AM
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hah, graphic novels are comic books. Preacher is a graphic novel too and it started as a 66 issue comic book. Also you should read Preacher. Fucking awesome.

Anyways, for the sake of argument let's say Iron Man needs to keep a foot in the door of reality and explain why Tony never would have developed the magnet without being stuck in the desert.

Tony Stark as a character in the movie, is a self serving, pompous piece of shit. He was before his kidnapping and he still was after. The only change in his character comes from his learning a life lesson of responsibility during his capture. Before his capture he had no real groundings, he was a spoiled rich kid who could invent things. However he only invented things within the weapons world or things to serve him in this process. After he saw what harm he was partially responsible for causing he decides he needs to do something about it.
So using his genius, which is his super power by the way, he invents a life saving magnet which also happens to be an extremely efficient generator, to save his life and help in his escape, thus allowing him to repair some of the damage he had a hand in with his weapons inventions.
However his history with weapons development meant that he already had an edge in that particular field, which lead to him deciding that the best way he could help the world would be to create a suit of armor. His new sense of responsibility and his selfish arrogance means only he is allowed to wear it. He amends that decision for the existence of War Machine later on.

Notice that within the first movie he still wasn't sharing his secret to developing the generator with anyone. So he still wasn't thinking outside his own box. He still wasn't helping the world in any more realistic way, like sharing his generator with the world. He stayed true to the character. Narrow Minded and selfish. Same reason he outs himself at the trial at the end. He likes the attention and glory.

Now, I don't think a Super hero movie should be rated on the merits of it's bearings in reality. It should solely rest on it's relationship to the source material and the overall product being presented. Iron Man does a pretty good job overall, though I understand fully that a movie is an entirely independent experience and everyone enjoys what they enjoy. Like Scot and his Pony porn.

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18-05-2012, 12:23 PM
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I just watched Moon, with Sam Rockwell and Kevin Spacey providing the voice for Sams' AI companion

Sam is isolated on the farside of the Moon, nearly finished with his 3 year contract maintaining machines for a mining company. The isolation starts to get to him, and he begins to hallucinate. There's obviously much more to the movie, but I don't want to give too much away

It's available to watch for free legally on the page for Crackle on youtube

Overall I give it an 8.5 out of 10
It's a fairly original concept, some parts were a little predictable, but there was still enough mystery to the story that kept me glued to the very end

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18-05-2012, 12:58 PM
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(18-05-2012 10:55 AM)germanyt Wrote:  
(17-05-2012 05:13 PM)lucradis Wrote:  For every bad Comic book movie there is a good one, and usually some you weren't aware were comic books first.

Check this shit out.

Also keep in mind there are things that are subjectively bad and things that are so widely regarded as bad that you can pretty well accept it as bad. I noticed the Batmans you put forth were the Joel Schumaker pieces of filth. Universally accepted as bad. Though some are beginning to say that they are so bad they are good, and I disagree.
The Tim Burton and Christopher Nolan films didn't make your list.

Not liking Iron Man bothers me the most. It's a genuinely good movie so far as I'm concerned. It's one of those movies that I thought anyone could like, fan or not. I suppose I was mistaken. I wonder what you would think of Sin City. It's usually regarded well by fans, and by artsy fartsy people, but no one else. I love it, but can see why people wouldn't.

Also Ghost World is not your typical comic book movie. Check it out.

there's no way in hell Punisher is the worst movie ever made. No fucking way. I call your bluff. Also Ghost Rider was by far worse.
Glitter anyone?
Wanna know what pissed me off about Iron Man? The fact that this guy managed to build the initial suit from scrap metal in the desert. And only after designing the most incredilbe medical breakthrough the world has known. This guy could be a noble prize winner but couldn't seem to build anything until he was stranded in the desert. I call BS on the entire premise that he could have actually lived and built the suit.

And Punisher cemented itself on the bottom rung when he tied Travolta to the car and bombed them in the shape of the Punisher logo. Horrible! All the idiots in the theater started clapping when that happened. I also felt that the interaction between the main character and the people that lived in the apartment building added nothing to the film. It was filler. Which basically made the movie 2 hours of poorly scripted filler followed by the cheesiest ending I've ever seen in a movie. Except for maybe Van Helsing. That was awful too.
Problem with your Iron Man issue... Tony didn't just invent the arc reactor on a whim. He already previously invented a bigger one which even his father worked on. He managed to make a miniature version of it for his heart. As for the suit of armor, he had help. They had everything they needed to build weapons for the terrorists.

The idea of an arc reactor may be preposterous to reality, but the idea of two very intelligent scientists inventing crazy weapons etc. is firmly grounded in reality. The Nazi scientists invented many, many things that still boggle the mind today.

But again, we land on the issue of you not being able to separate yourself from reality when it comes to comic book movies and action movies like Transporter. You say that these movies are "realistic" in style, but what is the alternative? I don't want to see Iron Man in some crazy Sky Captain style. I don't want to see X-Men in the style of Sin City. It just doesn't work.

It is just flat out cool that our favorite comics are coming to life. It's badass that Hollywood made a real-life Iron Man costume. It's sweet that computers can make all of this look realistic.

And when these movies are directed well, that makes it all the more sweeter. I'm sorry, but I go to the movies to escape reality. I don't go there to think, "Man, those metal claws coming out of Hugh Jackman's hands sure is fake".

By the way, Punisher from 2004 blows. Punisher from 2008 was better.

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18-05-2012, 01:08 PM
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(18-05-2012 12:23 PM)Alph4Omega Wrote:  I just watched Moon, with Sam Rockwell and Kevin Spacey providing the voice for Sams' AI companion

Sam is isolated on the farside of the Moon, nearly finished with his 3 year contract maintaining machines for a mining company. The isolation starts to get to him, and he begins to hallucinate. There's obviously much more to the movie, but I don't want to give too much away

It's available to watch for free legally on the page for Crackle on youtube

Overall I give it an 8.5 out of 10
It's a fairly original concept, some parts were a little predictable, but there was still enough mystery to the story that kept me glued to the very end

Joe
I've seen it. I too was glued through the entire film. It's been a while thought and I can't remember if we figured the truth out.

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