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01-04-2017, 08:17 AM
RE: Re-Introduction
(01-04-2017 08:13 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 08:06 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  Maybe the fool is they made you think that didn't happen.

Still have all my stuff, therefore it isn't Soviet utopia.

You got me there.

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01-04-2017, 08:24 AM
RE: Re-Introduction
(01-04-2017 08:17 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  
(01-04-2017 08:13 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  Still have all my stuff, therefore it isn't Soviet utopia.

You got me there.

In the end Cheka will get all of us so there's that.

The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.

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01-04-2017, 09:55 AM
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Its kinda fucking surreal seeing people as sweet as our Jennybee banned, just kinda wrong, like tits on a bull. Consider
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01-04-2017, 01:14 PM
RE: Re-Introduction
(31-03-2017 06:18 AM)Aractus Wrote:  Of course I'm not as prolific a poster as you though...

No one is. Not even Minimalist (Minimalist has over 50K posts at AF but he's been around since 2009 and posted every single day... I left for several years but when I returned to AF after a four year break I went from 8000 posts to 30,000 in a year... and although I only joined a year before Minimalist... before I left for years I actually had 15% of the forums posts... (the forum was very small, but still....) and several times more than Minimalist.

My record is over 430 posts in 24 hours over at AF... although 200 of them was in the Mafia game I was playing at the time.

I am actually rather worried that I'll overpost here once I go full power. So if anyone thinks my posting becomes so active that it's considered spamming or otherwise damaging to the forum however pleasant and relevant my posts are.... I'm sure I'll be made to behave myself long before that happened Smile

Although I am getting out more now and I do have SOMEWHAT of a life now and I'm doing other things... so even though I still worry about being overactive here I'll definitely never be as active as my most active in the past (I used to have no life at all. I literally did food shopping, had 4 hours sleep a day and spent the rest of my time posting).
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01-04-2017, 01:19 PM (This post was last modified: 01-04-2017 01:26 PM by EvieTheTurtle.)
RE: Re-Introduction
(31-03-2017 12:00 PM)abaris Wrote:  I can't really lay my finger on it, but it seemed like so much nitpicking as of late.

[over at AF]Ahhhhh! I just realized what you meant by nitpicking!

You mean the nitpicking that goes hand in hand with the intentional obtuseness/passive aggressiveness, pretending intended meaning doesn't exist and taking all comments literally in order to nitpick everything, cherry pick everything at quote out of context.

I didn't realize what you meant at first because it's not the nitpicking part that bothers me... it's the REASON why people are nitpicking which I perceive as intentional obtuseness and disingenuousness, passive aggressive and stuff. That whole atmosphere that is just... ick.

ETA :(to avoid double posting... sorry about doublepost. AF changed to merging all consecutive posts a month back so I didn't have to worry about double posting. Force of habit (I actually prefer it this way with separate posts though... but I'll be careful not to DP (Double post that is... you dirty minded reader you)).

(31-03-2017 03:54 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  welcome back Evie I hope you find happiness here.

I like aF, been a member for years now, but this place was better suited to my needs. I'm not a big one for starting discussions -- but we have lots of ongoing threads that one can just drop into.

Like the Ranting Corner (where I mostly exist), What did you learn today...why today was a good day...

You can find them in the this, that and the other thing, section.

Thanks Moms! And it's very great to see that you're as lovely as I've heard you are! Smile

Also.... those threads some awesome. Thanks for the tip!
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01-04-2017, 01:26 PM
RE: Re-Introduction
(01-04-2017 01:19 PM)EvieTheTurtle Wrote:  I didn't realize what you meant at first because it's not the nitpicking part that bothers me... it's the REASON why people are nitpicking which I perceive as intentional obtuseness and disingenuousness, passive aggressive and stuff. That whole atmosphere that is just... ick.

That's part of what I mean. The larger part is me getting angrier and angrier at what is being said. Which isn't my idea of fun.

By nitpicking I largely meant some creative enforcement of rules or the creation thereoff. It made me more and more tired of regulations regulating the regulations and one of my posts being removed because it supposedly was child pornography when in truth it was a mainstream cartoon, published in a mainstream magazine, condemning it.

In short, I got tired of a lot of people, and most of the ones I didn't get tired of are active here as well. Luckily only a few of the ones I got tired of make it here.

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01-04-2017, 01:28 PM (This post was last modified: 01-04-2017 01:37 PM by EvieTheTurtle.)
RE: Re-Introduction
Oh I never knew that happened with you I thought that was someone else.

Yeah... generally it wasn't the rules that bothered me it was the members.

But I think the fact the rules allowed so many assholes and dickheads to stick around is perhaps WHY the members bothered me.

I think the atmosphere is partly less shitty here because the assholes aren't kept around.

I do like how the rules are more guidelines than rules here though. The problem with the rules being followed to the letter at AF... is no matter how you change them they're either too restrictive or not restrictive enough and people find loopholes.

I much prefer the common sense aspect here.

I always stuck up for the rules over at AF (Hell, I was staff for ages!) because it appealed to my O.C.D. nature... and I often disagreed with the rules but the problem is I saw imperfection in whatever they changed to.

No rule can ever be perfect and I think I have such an O.C.D.ish side to me that I didn't even realize that the whole problem in the first place is following everything to the letter.

I was also the worst for that of all. Because my O.C.D. side got super reinforced so I took things to the letter even when other staff didn't.

Being part of a forum that has more of a spirit of the rule rather than letter of the rule approach..... that's definitely very good for my mental health. I find following rules addictive so when they're literal and meant to be followed to the letter and taken super literally despite all rules being imperfect and exploitable when taken that way.... that's really bad for my health because I find something irresistable and compulsive about rules.

It's so good to have a common sense guideline approach around here. The whole "don't be a dick" atmosphere to it is lovely here.

Anything that doesn't feed my literal-minded compulsiveness is good for me Smile

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myself Wrote:I find following rules addictive so when they're literal and meant to be followed to the letter and taken super literally[...] I find something irresistable and compulsive about rules[...]

Hah, it's a good thing I'm not religious.
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01-04-2017, 01:35 PM
RE: Re-Introduction
(01-04-2017 01:28 PM)EvieTheTurtle Wrote:  I think the atmosphere is partly less shitty here because the assholes aren't kept around.

It seems less are making it here in the first place. I've got nothing against conservative but the extreme right makes my blood boil. There are some conservatives here, but I haven't seen even one of the extreme right.

I also never made the distinction between theist and atheist. Two of my favorite members over there are theists. Three if you count Fr0d0, who sadly was banned and didn't make it here.

The last drop may have been the now rescinded clickbait rule when I really started to ask myself if that kind of bureaucracy was something I wanted to be a part of. And one particular runin with a mod where they resorted to personal insults in the conversation.

I still have a look at AF, but try as I might, I don't find many topics to interest me.

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01-04-2017, 01:42 PM
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Which mod insulted you?

Which two theists are your favorite members?

What do you think it is about AF that attracts more assholes in the first place?

I'm telling you... AF has always been different... and it's always been cliquey... but I didn't mind because I was part of the clique (and didn't even realize I was in one until the cliqueness broke down!). Now I think the cliques have broken and it's nothing but scattered division. The only clique left is the staff... and I actually like almost all the Staff at AF as people... but I'm no longer staff there and I dunno I just started feeling like I was alone amongst a bunch of assholes last time I posted on AF (there are still some lovely people over at AF but they're nowhere near as active as myself and there are many many assholes).

Also Losty barely posts there and Rob left there and they were the only other super active posters besides myself and I think they're both awesome.

I dunno, something about AF is different now.
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01-04-2017, 02:10 PM
RE: Re-Introduction
(01-04-2017 01:42 PM)EvieTheTurtle Wrote:  Which two theists are your favorite members?

Positive or negative, I don't name names outside AF as long as they're still active. It seems unfair to me.

I don't know what it is attracting more assholes, it didn't seem that way when I joined up nearly three years ago. The boards kept me hooked for a long time, but as of lately I felt that I only felt anger when looking there. Many threads turned into a circle jerk with the usual suspects trying to find intellectual justifications for their bigotry.

I consider some of the ones making it here friends, as far as internet friends go. Which is still a far cry from meeting someone IRL. But I respect them and think I would get along with them in real life just fine.

As I said, I spent more time asking myself if I wanted to still be a part of that community or not. I came up empty, and I would never post in the newly departed section as you did. First because I don't know if I am drawn back there at a certain point, secondly because nobody would miss me anyway, never being a member of one of the closed circuits.

There's also the fact that I came to disrespect two of the mods - again without naming names. One insulting me twice, once out of the blue, then when challenged on a certain matter, and another one suddenly singing the praise of Trump when he's in the worst position to do so.

But he's not the only one posting against his own best interests over there.

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