Reading through the bible again
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03-07-2014, 10:37 AM
RE: Reading through the bible again
(03-07-2014 09:56 AM)theophilus Wrote:  
(01-07-2014 12:50 PM)MrKrispy601 Wrote:  Sort of like a scientist who creates some sort of bug in a jar and then sees them eating each other. What of it? What is he going to do? Probably flush them down the sink as a bad job. Hey, I think I have figured out the flood story. Laugh out load

You have almost figured it out. All you need to add is the the scientist found a few bugs that weren't fighting and didn't flush them away with the rest.

Theophilus,
What is the theological analogue of this scenario? In other words, is God the scientist? And are we the bugs? Who made us then? If God did not flush us away because we were not fighting, then it is our own merit that saved us. Where does Jesus come into the picture?

Awaiting an answer anxiously,
Doc
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03-07-2014, 11:55 AM
RE: Reading through the bible again
(30-06-2014 10:14 AM)MrKrispy601 Wrote:  So I started reading the bible from the beginning again. My first two times actually reading the whole thing I was actually in the beginning phases of my atheism. This time I went into with more understanding on scientific processes and theories. So I noticed something I never had before...the beginning of the days as noted in Genesis has some huge problems from the first few verses.

1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

So I started to wonder....where is the sun? Is it just implied that he created the sun here? Even if that is the case doesn't light take years to travel the distance to the earth?

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

Oh....so he created it...days after he made light? Where did the light from the third verse come from then? Another question this passage raises- I'm guessing the other "light" is the moon....Doesn't the moon reflect light not give it off?Blink



I seriously had to put this down for a while after just 20 verses.

ya it is a great story isn't it? Drooling

Genesis 1:16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth.

The stars gave light to the earth immediately, although the closest star, Alpha Centauri, is 4.3 light years away. So the very first star light would have taken 4.3 years to reach earth. The light we see from the Andromeda Galaxy takes 2.2 million years to reach earth, which also debunks the argument that the earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old.

"Belief is so often the death of reason" - Qyburn, Game of Thrones

"The Christian community continues to exist because the conclusions of the critical study of the Bible are largely withheld from them." -Hans Conzelmann (1915-1989)
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