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27-06-2015, 10:26 AM
RE: Really tired of people who claim America is being destroyed.
(08-06-2015 04:53 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 04:46 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Hush, who do you think you are, Zeke?

Hey now, I've said America sucks long before Zeke ever did.

You were wrong then as well..
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27-06-2015, 10:58 AM
RE: Really tired of people who claim America is being destroyed.
It's seems we have a few Yankeeland haters.
Perspective from a Great White Northerner.
America has its problems but I don't think I'd ever say it sucks. It has plenty of positive traits. It's a beautiful land mass. A fascinating history and very cool historical sights. Monuments out the wazoo. It has NASA! I love NASA! It's cities offer everything. Cities like NY, LA , LV, more than I want to list. Then there's the small towns nobody has ever heard of. Beautiful town halls and picket fences. The food is mostly excellent. They do fried chicken like no other and the burgers are great! There doesn't seem to be many that think they deserve what you have for no bloody reason. The people in my experience are some of the most friendly I've ever met (except Jersey for some fucked up reason, just my experience anyway). I fucking love the place. It's one of my favourite places in The world and I will retire there when my time comes. And at that point if I must become a citizen I will do it happily.
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27-06-2015, 11:01 AM
RE: Really tired of people who claim America is being destroyed.
But it seems most of us Newfies like what the Yanks got goin on.
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27-06-2015, 11:02 AM
RE: Really tired of people who claim America is being destroyed.
Every time this thread comes up I kept thinking, well yeah actually it is. You just can't help it but erosion is outthere. Especially with some rising sea levels.

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28-06-2015, 01:47 PM
RE: Really tired of people who claim America is being destroyed.
(08-06-2015 05:07 PM)pablo Wrote:  "God bless America" is the battle cry of blind patriotic ignorance.

Agreed. I don't believe in a god. But I do believe in the ideals set forth in our constitution. It's a dynamic document that can mature as our country does. I don't think it was ever meant to be interpreted as narrowly as some people do today.

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28-06-2015, 02:13 PM
RE: Really tired of people who claim America is being destroyed.
(27-06-2015 10:58 AM)Drunkin Druid Wrote:  It's seems we have a few Yankeeland haters.
Perspective from a Great White Northerner.
America has its problems but I don't think I'd ever say it sucks. It has plenty of positive traits. It's a beautiful land mass. A fascinating history and very cool historical sights. Monuments out the wazoo. It has NASA! I love NASA! It's cities offer everything. Cities like NY, LA , LV, more than I want to list. Then there's the small towns nobody has ever heard of. Beautiful town halls and picket fences. The food is mostly excellent. They do fried chicken like no other and the burgers are great! There doesn't seem to be many that think they deserve what you have for no bloody reason. The people in my experience are some of the most friendly I've ever met (except Jersey for some fucked up reason, just my experience anyway). I fucking love the place. It's one of my favourite places in The world and I will retire there when my time comes. And at that point if I must become a citizen I will do it happily.

Thanks for the blazing review. Us Yanks appreciate it. Sorry about Jersey. That's like an afterthought. I would add that there are many great countries on this earth. All have there own plusses and minuses. I'm glad you had the chance to appreciate ours. Being that it's so large, most people don't get to travel far beyond their own state. I've travelled across the country, spent time in north Africa, and parts of Europe. So I was lucky to see more of the world than "JOE" from "insert name" town. Those experiences shaped my view of the world. Hopefully for the better. Yes we have our own problems here...but they are far from being the "doom and gloom" some would think.

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28-06-2015, 02:27 PM
RE: Really tired of people who claim America is being destroyed.
(12-06-2015 11:27 AM)cjlr Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 04:43 AM)Recless123 Wrote:  That is a nice sentiment, but really, what planet are you on? We are a two party system, which John Adams and Washington and other founders vehemently condemned. (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/t...tem.html). Adams could think of no greater evil coming from the US Constitution than the two party system. Guess we nailed that one.

A two-party system is the game-theory equilibrium of plurality winner-take-all political systems.
(or: don't hate the player, hate the game)

(11-06-2015 04:43 AM)Recless123 Wrote:  That partisanship you see is really just people drinking the cool-aid. All cool-aid is the same... religious, social, economic, etc. Liberalism, Libertarianism, and Conservatism are political/economic philosophies, not theologies. They each start from different premises so they will never agree. There is a physical reality of economics and politics out there, but these are just windows into that. If you can't argue from any of them you don't understand the issue you are looking at (there are only issues, not 'liberal issues' etc). People need to stop turning their politics into a substitute religion. Liberals can't seem to remember that everything costs. Conservatives can't seem to remember the moral philosophy at the center of their economics (see moral philosopher and 'father of economics' Adam Smith).

... who, besides sweeping generalisations, actually does that?

(11-06-2015 04:43 AM)Recless123 Wrote:  It is getting so old watching other atheists, who can shoot down faulty logic in the religious with ease, lose themselves in politics and fail to hold their political philosophy to the same level of skepticism and critical thinking they hold Ken Ham to. Taking up one political label as 'the ONE' is boneheaded at best.

No, seriously. Who are you talking about with this sort of sentiment?

(11-06-2015 04:43 AM)Recless123 Wrote:  Heck, taking up ANY political philosophy as a self-identity factor is stupid.

But any political system involving a choice between candidates/parties/policies entails a commensurate identity as a supporter of one over the other(s). By definition.

The two party system is a natural evolution of our constitutional republic. Witness the middle east where their forays into democracy end with chaos because one party among many gains power.

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28-06-2015, 02:30 PM
RE: Really tired of people who claim America is being destroyed.
(11-06-2015 07:37 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(11-06-2015 05:42 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  Mmhmm.

Yeah, you dont have to be in trouble with the law to know america is shit

MZ....please tell us why you think that way.

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28-06-2015, 02:38 PM
RE: Really tired of people who claim America is being destroyed.
(12-06-2015 10:11 AM)SunnyD1 Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 10:16 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  It's not about being perfect. I'm not saying X place is perfect and Y place isn't. I'm saying X place is better than Y place.

Scandinavia, Switzerland, Australia, NZ etc.. for example.


The issue with America is not that it's dying it's that it's ignorant. It's ignorant to its own shittiness. It's still better than most places in the world, that's a given, but it claims to be #1 when actually it's about #17. See what I'm saying?

A good old case of necrotic denial Tongue

America (USA) is huge. So you'll have to forgive some of us for being ignorant. Our outside face can be quite arrogant, though (because of our hugeness). Again, I ask your forgiveness. We're not all dicks.

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28-06-2015, 02:56 PM
RE: Really tired of people who claim America is being destroyed.
(09-06-2015 07:16 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(09-06-2015 07:14 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  Define "other countries".

I can name a bevy of "other countries" that are infinitely worse than the US.

Germany is one. And no i never said america was the worst, just that it sucks major ass.

When I first came to this site I enjoyed your posts (still do) and thought "there's someone with talent". Witty...young...free thinker...not just an old fart like me. But now I'm wondering "why all the hate ?". Is there anywhere on this planet for you that does not "SUCK MAJOR ASS" ?

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