Reification Fallacy, "god(s)" and human language

[I and I]

(18-10-2012 02:41 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  

(18-10-2012 01:21 AM)I and I Wrote:  A thought comes before an individuals words all the time. The thought or idea of a god existed before we were born, we were born then we learned of this belief/thought and how others in the past thought of this.

Language isn't an individualistic experience, it's a communal and cultural experience that comes with past concepts, past ideologies, and past belief systems.

This language in it's use in the communal sense is still a result of material production....Karl Marx.

Bullshit. Someone "else's" concept existed in a brain that had learned what that word means. THAT is some woo-woo. And that quote just contradicted yourself.

"Language isn't an individualistic experience, it's a communal and cultural experience that comes with past concepts, past ideologies, and past belief systems."

Among other things.

So no concepts or ideas existed before you knew about them? They just magically appear when YOU specifically learned about them.....along with unicorns and woo woo dildos.

Can you name any idea, concept, belief that was not related to past ideas, concepts and beliefs in any way?

1. Humans are born into a culture
2. This culture has belief structures and concepts in place BEFORE any particular human is born.
3. This person as an individual then is influenced by society then goes on to have ideas that are similar in different degrees.

One person might grow up to believe in an all encompassing thing that is the answer to everything, one person might go on to believe in an all encompassing "scientific theory" that can explain everything. Both are steaming piles of bullshit and both are very similar. And both of these ideas existed before you were born.

You are using English which has old words, Spanish words, french words from hundreds of years ago mixed in the language. Yes fuckball, shit from the past, shit before you were born has had an influence on you.