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23-11-2013, 08:36 PM (This post was last modified: 23-11-2013 09:27 PM by Taqiyya Mockingbird.)
RE: Religion Foreshadowing Science
(23-11-2013 08:12 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  
(23-11-2013 07:51 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vairocana

Vairocana (also Vairochana or Mahāvairocana) is a celestial buddha who is often interpreted, in texts like the Flower Garland Sutra, as the Bliss Body of the historical Buddha (Siddhartha Gautama). In Chinese, Korean, and Japanese Buddhism, Vairocana is also seen as the embodiment of the Buddhist concept of Emptiness. In the conception of the Five Wisdom Buddhas of Vajrayana Buddhism, Vairocana is at the centre.


Which makes it even more made-up horseshit than first blush would show.


BESIDES, do you have any idea what "Sakyamuni" means" It refers to the person known as Siddhartha, "the Buddha". A thousand of his ass sitting on lotus petals? Woo, woo, woo.

YAY! You proved some points for me!


I did nothing of the kind.

Quote:(And yes, the Sakyamuni Republic was where Siddartha lived, smart one. What kind of meditator would I be if I didn't know my Buddha?)

An ignrant one, methinks. And if you *did* know your Buddha, you would know that "sakya-muni" means "sage of the Sakyas".

There wasn't a "SakyaMUNI republic".

And he didn't call himself "sakyamuni" anyway (he called himself the "tathagata", "the one who has gone thus"), "sakyamuni" just more mahayana horseshit.

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23-11-2013, 08:49 PM
RE: Religion Foreshadowing Science
(23-11-2013 04:40 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  
(23-11-2013 04:37 PM)grizzlysnake Wrote:  I don't know what you mean by extrasensory though.

Senses beyond the five traditional senses.

Like when I meditate, I can be in tune with my surroundings without necessarily hearing, seeing, or even feeling anything.

There are over 20 senses e.g. proximity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_senses

So the key word you correctly used was 'traditional'. The other senses are still active when one meditates.

Regarding the OP...

Yes, the Quran does it all the time.

Thus proving that Allah is the one true god and Mo was his messenger.

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24-11-2013, 11:18 AM
RE: Religion Foreshadowing Science
(23-11-2013 08:30 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(23-11-2013 06:35 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  Oh, piss off for once.

Tut tut little one.
It is REALLY annoying to have one's woo tossed out as the turd it is.
Your experience is being interpreted by the very thing being used for the experience. VERY VERY unreliable that.
It's called "confirmation bias".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_activ...meditation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures...41&dpr=0.9
We can prove with MRI, CT, and PET scans there is NO WOO associated with meditation. Your beta-endorphins, oxytocin, and dopamine increase.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your...-chemicals
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Take a like for the pictures alone.

We've already discussed those other topics exhaustively.
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24-11-2013, 11:20 AM
RE: Religion Foreshadowing Science
(23-11-2013 08:36 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(23-11-2013 08:12 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  YAY! You proved some points for me!


I did nothing of the kind.

Quote:(And yes, the Sakyamuni Republic was where Siddartha lived, smart one. What kind of meditator would I be if I didn't know my Buddha?)

An ignrant one, methinks. And if you *did* know your Buddha, you would know that "sakya-muni" means "sage of the Sakyas".

There wasn't a "SakyaMUNI republic".

And he didn't call himself "sakyamuni" anyway (he called himself the "tathagata", "the one who has gone thus"), "sakyamuni" just more mahayana horseshit.

Nope. Here's a link to where he lived: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakya

You apparently fail to read my posts, and everyone knows the tathagata thing. You must fancy yourself as smart.
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24-11-2013, 12:25 PM
RE: Religion Foreshadowing Science
(24-11-2013 11:18 AM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  
(23-11-2013 08:30 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Tut tut little one.
It is REALLY annoying to have one's woo tossed out as the turd it is.
Your experience is being interpreted by the very thing being used for the experience. VERY VERY unreliable that.
It's called "confirmation bias".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_activ...meditation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures...41&dpr=0.9
We can prove with MRI, CT, and PET scans there is NO WOO associated with meditation. Your beta-endorphins, oxytocin, and dopamine increase.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your...-chemicals
Oooooommmmmmm.
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Take a like for the pictures alone.

We've already discussed those other topics exhaustively.

We did ?
Where ?

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24-11-2013, 12:27 PM
RE: Religion Foreshadowing Science
(24-11-2013 12:25 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(24-11-2013 11:18 AM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  Take a like for the pictures alone.

We've already discussed those other topics exhaustively.

We did ?
Where ?

On the Q&A.
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24-11-2013, 10:04 PM (This post was last modified: 24-11-2013 10:14 PM by Taqiyya Mockingbird.)
RE: Religion Foreshadowing Science
(24-11-2013 11:20 AM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  
(23-11-2013 08:36 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  I did nothing of the kind.


An ignrant one, methinks. And if you *did* know your Buddha, you would know that "sakya-muni" means "sage of the Sakyas".

There wasn't a "SakyaMUNI republic".

And he didn't call himself "sakyamuni" anyway (he called himself the "tathagata", "the one who has gone thus"), "sakyamuni" just more mahayana horseshit.

Nope. Here's a link to where he lived: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakya

And where does that article say that he lived in the "Sakyamuni Republic"? [hint: it doesn't. Which means YOU didn't read the article you yourself cited. VERY bad form.]

Quote:You apparently fail to read my posts,

I answered your post. OBVIOUSLY I had read it.


Quote: and everyone knows the tathagata thing.

Actually, no, not my a long stretch, especially tibetan-types.


Quote: You must fancy yourself as smart.

Smart enough to catch that you didn't read the WIKI article you cited. And smart enough to know that you can't blindly trust everything you see on WIKI, too.

I don't have to "fancy".

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24-11-2013, 10:17 PM (This post was last modified: 24-11-2013 10:52 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Religion Foreshadowing Science
(24-11-2013 12:27 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  
(24-11-2013 12:25 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  We did ?
Where ?

On the Q&A.

Hardly. The only reply you were able to muster, was :

Blink
Wutwut?

I guess if that's what your call "thoroughly", it's no wonder you buy into the nonsense you do.

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24-11-2013, 10:39 PM
RE: Religion Foreshadowing Science
Religion was a precursor to science, it did not however foreshadow science. Religion is created to explain what we do not understand, and in this it shares the barest of similarities with science. Unfortunately religion builds great edifices upon assumptions, myth making, political control; and then codifies everything as unquestionable dogma. Science questions everything, even it own conclusions; and thus is in a near constant state of flux created by it's continuous self improvement.

Religion assumes the answers and seeks to assert itself, science always questions and seeks to disprove itself. This is the core of their ideological separation, and why the later succeeds at the expense of the former.

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24-11-2013, 11:44 PM
RE: Religion Foreshadowing Science
(24-11-2013 10:39 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Religion assumes the answers and seeks to assert itself, science always questions and seeks to disprove itself. This is the core of their ideological separation, and why the later succeeds at the expense of the former.

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