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13-03-2017, 12:29 PM
RE: Religion and Politics
I've read the bible five times.
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13-03-2017, 02:13 PM
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(13-03-2017 12:29 PM)socialistview Wrote:  I've read the bible five times.

Meh, I have read the bible 5 times by the time I was in the 3rd grade. I went to a christian school, I read the bible close to 100 times by the time they let us go (I really don't know the exact number, but in order to pass grades we had to memorize a TON of verses and still be able to recite verses from every prior year too).

The real question is, do you understand the things you read ?
(reading comprehension is as important, if not more important than simply the time you spend reading, you could read the bible 1000 times but if you can't comprehend what it is the bible is actually saying. As opposed to what you want to think it says. Then you haven't really accomplished much. In light of that, why is it your version of Christianity is so far removed from ANY of the more accepted versions?)

You know 2,000 years from now people may find tales from Lord of the Rings, or Harry Potter, Or Star Wars, or Star Trek (or worse mish mash them all together, nerdshudder), and convince themselves that these writings were divinely inspired. They would have as much credibility as you do now. But standing here today, knowing that those are just stories, are you self aware enough to realize its quite possible the people who wrote YOUR stories may have at one time thought of them in the same way as we consider Harry Potter?

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13-03-2017, 02:40 PM
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That would explain why the bible wasn't written down until after all the people alive for the events were dead. It's important to get rid of the witnesses before publishing a lie.

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13-03-2017, 03:47 PM
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(13-03-2017 02:13 PM)JesseB Wrote:  You know 2,000 years from now people may find tales from Lord of the Rings, or Harry Potter, Or Star Wars, or Star Trek (or worse mish mash them all together, nerdshudder)

Frodo, as first officer of the Tatooine, you and ensign Skywalker are to meet with the delegation from Muggles 3.

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13-03-2017, 06:58 PM
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Well were waiting for jesus to come back so we can have evidence of it all.
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13-03-2017, 07:02 PM
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LOL, first you have to prove the other claims in your "good" book (I take issue with calling such a horrific reprehensible book good but hell lets roll with it for the sake of conversation).

Otherwise no one needs to wait for it to happen, because its clearly bullshit. It won't happen. Just like every other claim on the end of the world has failed.

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13-03-2017, 07:06 PM
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(13-03-2017 06:58 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Well were waiting for jesus to come back so we can have evidence of it all.

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13-03-2017, 10:20 PM
RE: Religion and Politics
It says don't pray for the end becuase the end will be the worst thing you ever experience.
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13-03-2017, 10:24 PM
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(13-03-2017 10:20 PM)socialistview Wrote:  It says don't pray for the end becuase the end will be the worst thing you ever experience.

What a silly thing to say. Think about the world before you were born. Was that the worst thing you ever experienced? No of course not, you weren't aware you didn't exist. When you die it'll be the same silly. Only the dying part is painful, after its done there's simply nothing.

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14-03-2017, 07:10 AM
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(11-03-2017 08:56 PM)socialistview Wrote:  I'm a christian so I go by what the new testament says all sins except sexual sins are outside the body sexual sin is sin against the body. Just to point out god has been compassionate through the whole bible so we live by compassion. And god works with everybody but believers follow god and recieve his promises he made to us. Actually do what the bible says and see if you don't get what you want in life.

So is the Old testament just to be completely voided? If the events in the bible are just going to be cherry picked by the denomination of Christianity that it suits, then it is entirely unfair to choose the parts that suits you and then claim your god is all compassionate! Take it from another point of view and cherry pick all the horrible, misogynistic, sadistic, murderous events committed by god and those supposedly following him and you see a picture of a god who is simply evil. It is a question of perspective.

http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=21

Can you really ignore (or defend) these evils that were supposedly committed by god?

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