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11-03-2017, 12:56 PM
RE: Religion and choice
Well do you think jews in bible times died unfortanatly or they all lived a happy life. You dont loose faith by just that it says god wants to help but we dont want his help so he said let them die by whatever they die by earthquake and famines will be the birth pains. But but he doesnt just like some god chooses which will die and not for the sake of what is fair.
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11-03-2017, 12:57 PM
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(11-03-2017 11:34 AM)socialistview Wrote:  ... as a Christian god literally works in your last fe physically whether by saving you life in a car wreck or giving you money. Not believers dont have that protection. But aswell god its like a job story for all of us.
I have no idea what a "last fe" is or why you suffer from aswelling, but you seem to be saying that god does special favors for, and protects believers, but doesn't do that for unbelievers.

When I was a believer god did me no special favors and most certainly did not protect me or mine. On the other hand as an unbeliever, while not wealthy, I own a house and two cars free and clear and am in fact debt free, period, and have at least a basic amount set aside for retirement, so have no need for god to "give me money".

So this "god blesses the righteous and confounds the wicked" nonsense is debunked.

Try again.
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11-03-2017, 01:03 PM
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Even in the Bible, that document that socialistview has never read, it has a lot of shit about how "the wicked flourish like a green tree" and so forth. Those fuckers recognised that God didn't help the people he was supposed to help, and it bothered the hell out of them.

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11-03-2017, 01:39 PM
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(11-03-2017 12:16 PM)Heath_Tierney Wrote:  Clearly our friend socialistview has never heard about the Lisbon earthquake and resulting tsunami of 1755 that killed tens of thousands on All Saints Day, including thousands worshipping in churches across Portugal. It was, arguably, the beginning of the atheist movement in Europe, a movement that has become worldwide and continues to this day.

thanks, it was interesting.

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11-03-2017, 05:59 PM
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(11-03-2017 12:57 PM)mordant Wrote:  
(11-03-2017 11:34 AM)socialistview Wrote:  ... as a Christian god literally works in your last fe physically whether by saving you life in a car wreck or giving you money. Not believers dont have that protection. But aswell god its like a job story for all of us.
I have no idea what a "last fe" is or why you suffer from aswelling, but you seem to be saying that god does special favors for, and protects believers, but doesn't do that for unbelievers.

When I was a believer god did me no special favors and most certainly did not protect me or mine. On the other hand as an unbeliever, while not wealthy, I own a house and two cars free and clear and am in fact debt free, period, and have at least a basic amount set aside for retirement, so have no need for god to "give me money".

So this "god blesses the righteous and confounds the wicked" nonsense is debunked.

Try again.

Think about the wicked like scareface they do crimes and they get rich for a lil while but they go just as quickly as they arrive that's what the bible saying.

Mabe make a deal with god if he does this you'll do this.
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11-03-2017, 06:06 PM
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(11-03-2017 05:59 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Think about the wicked like scareface they do crimes and they get rich for a lil while but they go just as quickly as they arrive that's what the bible saying.

scareface? Laughat

It doesn't require a bible or a god to figure out that leading a violent life increases the chances of a violent death. If you are saying that atheists are all criminals then you need to apologize.

What you don't have is any evidence that people who "obey" live better lives or that anything good that happens to them is caused by your god. You are living in a fantasy world.

Quote:Mabe make a deal with god if he does this you'll do this.

Pretty pathetic little god you have there.

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11-03-2017, 09:08 PM
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If people believe it will happen. Among believers they have stories but Paul says I tell them to imitate me and they don't. Most christians do do what the bible says so they get nothing. And with god your suppose to suffer then have joy like job.
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11-03-2017, 10:36 PM
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(11-03-2017 09:08 PM)socialistview Wrote:  If people believe it will happen.

This is the textbook definition of wishful thinking.

Quote:And with god your suppose to suffer then have joy like job.

So God's a sadistic bastard is what you're saying? Don't go into advertising.

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12-03-2017, 12:15 AM (This post was last modified: 12-03-2017 01:46 AM by Robvalue.)
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So, socialist...

Any evidence for Christians being statistically better off from car crashes, or did you make it up?

You see, you finally made a falsifiable hypothesis. You said God saves Christians, and only Christians, from car crashes. If this was true, we'd expect to see this reflected in the statistics. So if we go look at car crash statistics, we would have a way of seeing if your hypothesis is (probably) true or false.

What do you think we would find?

You're welcome to retract your claim at any point, of course.

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12-03-2017, 08:21 AM
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God saves non christians aswell just those who actually wanted to make this world a better place and not all christians he will save meaning god works with everbody but the best way of things happening in your life is that you have troubles first then rewards for your obedience. It says in the bible bless is the one who has his ttoibles young and its bad for one to have his troubles old. And he says if your of god and god wants you yourll have trouble in your life if not god doesn't care about you.
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