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08-03-2016, 11:45 AM
Religion in Schools, United Kingdom
These links indicate the deplorable role religion plays in UK schools...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35189645
http://fairadmissions.org.uk/
https://paulbraterman.wordpress.com/2016...ty-report/
On top of that is the Islamism in some schools...
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/...rse-letter

Religionists cause many problems in the UK. Religion interferes with education; science (creationism); morality (religiously motivated child genital mutilation/circumcision; animal rights (halal/kosher meat); politics (bishops in the Upper House; PM "doing god"); and the law (religious courts undermining the principle of 'one law for all').

Tribalism is a problem: Sunni/Shia; Protestant/Catholic; etc.

The only good news from the UK is that there is less prejudice against atheists here than in the USA. It appears to me that for all the problems and lack of separation of Church and State from which the UK and Ireland suffer there is more acceptance and trust between believers and non-believers. It probably helps that most British and Irish people are non-believers and religion here has an even worse reputation than in the USA.

It is always very important to understand that religious dogma, behavior and superstitions are under attack. Reject these, not the persons. Perhaps in the UK people don't take such things so seriously and don't feel it so personally? Although there's this....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/hom...83538.html
In this matter the UK Conservative (Tory) Party seems to have most of the problems. Most MPs like most Brits aren't superstitious, even if some of them find lip service to religion to be expedient.

Perhaps we also need to challenge religious language, using ordinary words instead of the lingo religionists prefer...
Religious or pious person = religionist
Theology = mythology
Atheist = non-believer
Blasphemy = satire or criticism
Prayer = incantation
Religion = superstition
etcetera.
These religious or "theological" terms seem to have been invented to give credence to religion and try to differentiate it from other superstitions.

Religion and superstitions in general teach humanity no end of a lesson, if people care to learn.
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08-03-2016, 11:53 AM
RE: Religion in Schools, United Kingdom
(08-03-2016 11:45 AM)Zeff Wrote:  These links indicate the deplorable role religion plays in UK schools...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35189645
http://fairadmissions.org.uk/
https://paulbraterman.wordpress.com/2016...ty-report/
On top of that is the Islamism in some schools...
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/...rse-letter

Religionists cause many problems in the UK. Religion interferes with education; science (creationism); morality (religiously motivated child genital mutilation/circumcision; animal rights (halal/kosher meat); politics (bishops in the Upper House; PM "doing god"); and the law (religious courts undermining the principle of 'one law for all').

Tribalism is a problem: Sunni/Shia; Protestant/Catholic; etc.

The only good news from the UK is that there is less prejudice against atheists here than in the USA. It appears to me that for all the problems and lack of separation of Church and State from which the UK and Ireland suffer there is more acceptance and trust between believers and non-believers. It probably helps that most British and Irish people are non-believers and religion here has an even worse reputation than in the USA.

It is always very important to understand that religious dogma, behavior and superstitions are under attack. Reject these, not the persons. Perhaps in the UK people don't take such things so seriously and don't feel it so personally? Although there's this....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/hom...83538.html
In this matter the UK Conservative (Tory) Party seems to have most of the problems. Most MPs like most Brits aren't superstitious, even if some of them find lip service to religion to be expedient.

Perhaps we also need to challenge religious language, using ordinary words instead of the lingo religionists prefer...
Religious or pious person = religionist
Theology = mythology
Atheist = non-believer
Blasphemy = satire or criticism
Prayer = incantation
Religion = superstition
etcetera.
These religious or "theological" terms seem to have been invented to give credence to religion and try to differentiate it from other superstitions.

Religion and superstitions in general teach humanity no end of a lesson, if people care to learn.

Excellent first post.

In fact, excellent post full stop.Thumbsup

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08-03-2016, 12:36 PM
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Here in the US. Separation of Church and State is a grey line depending on what part of the country you're in. Many southern schools may have strong enforcement of religion practices in schools. (At least when I was growing up.) We would have to start our day saying the Pledge of Allegiance.

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"

is part of that Pledge of Allegiance I never saw this as a problem until I got much older. Especial once I found out it was changed. The same time they slapped In God We Trust. On our money. Mostly to separate us from those bloody Commies!

The original 1892 version was

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."


I've heard that in Texas they teach Moses as an actual historical figurer. Texas is kind of a major problem for our school systems. They are the largest purchasers of school books in the nation. So publishers will accommodate to their needs. And instead of correcting problems and making separate information for the rest of the country. They will simply push along the information their largest benefactor wants to the rest of the country.

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08-03-2016, 01:41 PM
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(08-03-2016 11:45 AM)Zeff Wrote:  These links indicate the deplorable role religion plays in UK schools...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35189645
http://fairadmissions.org.uk/
https://paulbraterman.wordpress.com/2016...ty-report/
On top of that is the Islamism in some schools...
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/...rse-letter

Religionists cause many problems in the UK. Religion interferes with education; science (creationism); morality (religiously motivated child genital mutilation/circumcision; animal rights (halal/kosher meat); politics (bishops in the Upper House; PM "doing god"); and the law (religious courts undermining the principle of 'one law for all').

Tribalism is a problem: Sunni/Shia; Protestant/Catholic; etc.

The only good news from the UK is that there is less prejudice against atheists here than in the USA. It appears to me that for all the problems and lack of separation of Church and State from which the UK and Ireland suffer there is more acceptance and trust between believers and non-believers. It probably helps that most British and Irish people are non-believers and religion here has an even worse reputation than in the USA.

It is always very important to understand that religious dogma, behavior and superstitions are under attack. Reject these, not the persons. Perhaps in the UK people don't take such things so seriously and don't feel it so personally? Although there's this....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/hom...83538.html
In this matter the UK Conservative (Tory) Party seems to have most of the problems. Most MPs like most Brits aren't superstitious, even if some of them find lip service to religion to be expedient.

Perhaps we also need to challenge religious language, using ordinary words instead of the lingo religionists prefer...
Religious or pious person = religionist
Theology = mythology
Atheist = non-believer
Blasphemy = satire or criticism
Prayer = incantation
Religion = superstition
etcetera.
These religious or "theological" terms seem to have been invented to give credence to religion and try to differentiate it from other superstitions.

Religion and superstitions in general teach humanity no end of a lesson, if people care to learn.

What pisses me off about religtards is that they teach impressionable children that god is real - even though the are unable to offer any proof because, as we all know, there isn't any.

They also teach children that it is wrong to question religtardology and the clergy. This is especially true of kat lickers. As such, when the children grow into adults, the priests can commit their evil deeds without question. This is why the evil twats were able to get away with things for so long. No one questioned them.

Children then believe in the sky wizard without question but it doesn't stop there. They believe in all kinds of additional illogical rubbish.

This is no way to bring up children who are able to think in a logical manner.

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