Religion in my country
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03-03-2010, 05:46 PM
 
Religion in my country
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03-03-2010, 06:03 PM
RE: Religion in my country
In the United States, separation of church and state is a vital part of our country's principles. The First Amendment to the Constitution reads as follows:

The First Amendment Wrote:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Note the first line: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". Congress is constitutionally prohibited from limiting or advancing religion in all federal issues and establishments.
I'm very glad that this is the case, as it prevents such things as teacher-led prayer in school, the teaching of Biblical history and other religious issues being brought into our lives against our wills. I am sorry that your country doesn't have this. It must be very annoying.

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03-03-2010, 06:31 PM
 
RE: Religion in my country
Yes, I do believe that this separation is of extreme importance for our country. This things that I mentioned seem to be slowly changing though. For example, before 1994 (when the constitution was modified) a president had to be catholic. Religion is still tought here in public schools (this is perhaps the most unpleasant aspects of all this) even though public education should be religion-free.

When I was in primary school I had to take religion, but there was a kid in my class who was a Jehovah's Witness and then two others that were Jewish. They didn't really have to take the class, but the teacher said that "Religion" was just.. another name for "morals and ethics", so we were just tought about how bad abortion is and how life is sacred and all that bs.
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03-03-2010, 10:18 PM
 
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I had always thought that Canada was secular...here's the Wikipedia excerpt:

"Government and religion
Canada today has no official church, and the government is officially committed to religious pluralism. In some fields Christian influence remains.

Christmas and Easter are nationwide holidays, and while Jews, Muslims, and other groups are allowed to take their holy days off work they do not share the same official recognition[citation needed]. The French version of "O Canada", the official national anthem, contains a Catholic reference to "carrying the cross". In some parts of the country Sunday shopping is still banned, but this is steadily becoming less common. There was an ongoing battle in the late 20th century to have religious garb accepted throughout Canadian society, mostly focused on Sikh turbans. Eventually the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Royal Canadian Legion, and other groups accepted members wearing turbans.

Canada is a Commonwealth realm in which the head of state is shared with 15 other countries, including the United Kingdom. The UK's succession laws forbid Roman Catholics and their spouses from occupying the throne, and the reigning monarch is also ex officio Supreme Governor of the Church of England, but Canada is not bound by these laws. Within Canada, the Queen's title include the phrases "By the Grace of God" and "Defender of the Faith."

While the Canadian government's official ties to Christianity are few, it more overtly recognizes the existence of God and even the supremacy of God [9]. Both the preamble to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the national anthem in both languages refer to God.

In 1957, Parliament declared Thanksgiving "a day of general thanksgiving to almighty God for the bountiful harvest with which Canada has been blessed.", stating that God is almighty and that Canada is blessed. [10]

Some religious schools are government-funded. See Section Twenty-nine of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms."

For the most part, I don't normally see too much complaining going on. We have Catholic schools and, from my perspective, that is the only place religion is taught...the public schools seem to abstain from teaching anything religious. When I was in the primary grades, we had to say the lord's prayer but, by the time I got into high school (early '90s), it was no longer required.

I don't agree that the government funds the Catholic schools. I have heard of some Atheists trying to remove that, as well as the "...god keep our land..." part of our national anthem. I think once funding is taken away, we can all rest easy in a public school system that has a variety of nationalities in it that kids can interact.
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07-03-2010, 10:48 PM
 
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The US does indeed have separation of church and state, but it's not it's only truly on paper. Sure, we've removed prayer from school and federal buildings such as courthouses, but until the religious beliefs of American politicians no longer influence their choices on big decisions, there will be no true separation of church and state.

I was also of the impression that the majority of all of South America was Roman Catholic. Maybe I'm wrong.
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07-03-2010, 11:01 PM
 
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(07-03-2010 10:48 PM)Silvance Wrote:  The US does indeed have separation of church and state, but it's not it's only truly on paper. Sure, we've removed prayer from school and federal buildings such as courthouses, but until the religious beliefs of American politicians no longer influence their choices on big decisions, there will be no true separation of church and state.
Well said. We don't have prayer here in school or stuff like that, just "moral and etics" teaching in the form of religion. We are not tought creationism or any bible shit (at least when I was in school). But we (each one of us) is paying the salary of bishops through our taxes! That's just wrong.

(07-03-2010 10:48 PM)Silvance Wrote:  I was also of the impression that the majority of all of South America was Roman Catholic. Maybe I'm wrong.
Well, why do you think you are wrong? It's true.
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