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21-12-2012, 05:26 PM
RE: Respect for Religion
(21-12-2012 12:02 AM)Ghost Wrote:  The reason I said what you seem to agree with is because the notion that religion offers nothing is puerile nonsense...But the outright denial of any value is just silly.

Like nailing Jell-o to a wall.

Circuitous definition, nice. Let's go to Webster:

respect - n. 2. an act of giving particular attention : CONSIDERATION 3a. high or special regard : ESTEEM b. the quality or state of being esteemed
vt. 1a. to consider worthy of high regard :ESTEEM b. to refrain from interfering with <please respect their privacy>

The only benefit religion can arguably be credited with is a sense of belonging and community, the same thing offered by Dungeons&Dragons or a bowling league, except they aren't divisive and don't incite violence. So, normal subcultures, recreational organizations and secular charities can cover ALL of religion's potential benefits only without the harm.

In contrast, religion breeds intolerance, fosters xenophobia, and encourages torture and even slaughter, while only marginally offering any benefit and only at the cost of hypocrisy.

You've yet to posit ANYTHING that could serve as a reason to give religion high or special regard. The red herring of "socially constructed reality" and resorting to subtle personal attacks does not strengthen your argument. If you cannot give SPECIFIC reasons why RELIGION itself should be held in high or special regard, then you have no platfom on which to stand and the point is conceded, there is no reason to hold religion in high or special regard, to respect it.

By respecting the religious, I mean common courtesy: not accosting them, or heck, even starting the conversation, but asking me to believe unfounded and dangerous crap is more than enough ground to allow me to challenge the belief. Demanding I allow my children to be taught that crap, or asking me to contribute money so religious people can put religious decorations on public property is NOT to go unchallenged.
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Respect for Religion - Marcus - 02-12-2012, 04:16 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Irishdize - 02-12-2012, 04:25 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 02-12-2012, 04:36 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Logica Humano - 03-12-2012, 08:13 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Marcus - 02-12-2012, 04:45 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 02-12-2012, 04:49 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - PoolBoyG - 02-12-2012, 04:52 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - hedgehog648 - 02-12-2012, 05:31 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Leela - 02-12-2012, 06:21 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Elesjei - 04-12-2012, 02:18 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Thinkerbelle - 02-12-2012, 06:42 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Reltzik - 02-12-2012, 07:12 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - cufflink - 02-12-2012, 09:31 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - amyb - 02-12-2012, 08:42 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Reltzik - 02-12-2012, 09:56 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - cufflink - 02-12-2012, 11:26 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - DLJ - 02-12-2012, 11:39 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - cufflink - 03-12-2012, 01:43 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Free Thought - 02-12-2012, 11:16 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - amyb - 03-12-2012, 12:31 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Marcus - 03-12-2012, 01:45 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - DLJ - 03-12-2012, 02:15 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Marcus - 03-12-2012, 07:04 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Vosur - 03-12-2012, 10:17 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Tetrarch - 03-12-2012, 03:09 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Vosur - 03-12-2012, 03:35 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Tetrarch - 03-12-2012, 03:46 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Vosur - 03-12-2012, 03:48 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - ideasonscribe - 03-12-2012, 07:03 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Vosur - 04-12-2012, 08:41 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - ideasonscribe - 04-12-2012, 02:10 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Vosur - 04-12-2012, 03:06 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 04-12-2012, 07:19 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Marcus - 04-12-2012, 12:25 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Marcus - 05-12-2012, 02:19 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Logica Humano - 04-12-2012, 08:56 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Logica Humano - 04-12-2012, 08:59 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - ShirubaDangan - 04-12-2012, 03:48 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Aseptic Skeptic - 04-12-2012, 04:24 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 04-12-2012, 05:31 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - TarzanSmith - 05-12-2012, 07:16 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 05-12-2012, 09:56 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Marcus - 06-12-2012, 01:49 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - ddrew - 06-12-2012, 02:06 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Marcus - 08-12-2012, 05:20 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 08-12-2012, 11:29 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Marcus - 11-12-2012, 08:26 AM
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RE: Respect for Religion - Free Thought - 11-12-2012, 04:24 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Vosur - 11-12-2012, 04:36 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 11-12-2012, 05:56 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Vosur - 12-12-2012, 10:21 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Chas - 12-12-2012, 10:47 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 12-12-2012, 11:11 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Marcus - 15-12-2012, 05:18 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - ScienceGeek2587 - 15-12-2012, 02:24 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 15-12-2012, 08:14 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Chas - 15-12-2012, 08:47 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 15-12-2012, 09:07 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Chas - 15-12-2012, 09:33 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 15-12-2012, 10:58 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - ScienceGeek2587 - 15-12-2012, 09:23 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 16-12-2012, 07:51 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Chas - 16-12-2012, 09:13 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - ScienceGeek2587 - 16-12-2012, 10:28 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 16-12-2012, 06:47 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - DLJ - 17-12-2012, 03:45 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 16-12-2012, 07:04 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 17-12-2012, 10:44 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Chas - 17-12-2012, 01:14 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Free - 17-12-2012, 01:20 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 17-12-2012, 03:12 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Chas - 17-12-2012, 03:28 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 17-12-2012, 04:55 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 17-12-2012, 08:35 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - DLJ - 18-12-2012, 03:58 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 17-12-2012, 08:40 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 18-12-2012, 06:26 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Chas - 18-12-2012, 06:52 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 18-12-2012, 07:38 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - DLJ - 18-12-2012, 08:00 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 18-12-2012, 07:38 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 18-12-2012, 08:05 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 18-12-2012, 09:38 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 18-12-2012, 09:43 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - DLJ - 19-12-2012, 07:26 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - ScienceGeek2587 - 19-12-2012, 12:59 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 19-12-2012, 02:58 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - ScienceGeek2587 - 19-12-2012, 05:59 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 19-12-2012, 11:12 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 20-12-2012, 07:17 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - ideasonscribe - 20-12-2012, 07:59 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - ScienceGeek2587 - 19-12-2012, 11:56 PM
Respect for Religion - Erxomai - 20-12-2012, 01:00 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - ScienceGeek2587 - 20-12-2012, 01:40 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 20-12-2012, 08:54 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Chas - 20-12-2012, 09:01 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 20-12-2012, 10:31 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 20-12-2012, 10:49 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 20-12-2012, 09:34 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - GirlyMan - 20-12-2012, 10:00 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - DLJ - 20-12-2012, 10:20 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Starcrash - 20-12-2012, 11:22 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - ScienceGeek2587 - 20-12-2012, 11:35 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 20-12-2012, 11:46 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 21-12-2012, 12:51 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 21-12-2012, 12:02 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - ScienceGeek2587 - 21-12-2012 05:26 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Chas - 21-12-2012, 07:58 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 21-12-2012, 12:11 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Chas - 21-12-2012, 02:57 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - DLJ - 21-12-2012, 04:01 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 21-12-2012, 12:26 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 21-12-2012, 05:17 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 21-12-2012, 03:05 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Chas - 21-12-2012, 03:26 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 21-12-2012, 03:46 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Chas - 21-12-2012, 04:05 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - fstratzero - 21-12-2012, 05:04 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Janus - 21-12-2012, 10:36 PM
RE: Respect for Religion - Ghost - 22-12-2012, 12:39 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - ScienceGeek2587 - 22-12-2012, 12:49 AM
RE: Respect for Religion - Question - 22-12-2012, 10:51 PM
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