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Revealing the Origins of Life
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09-02-2013, 07:10 PM
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Revealing the Origins of Life
I came across this video and thought some people here may enjoy it. It's about 2 years old so it's not exactly news, but it was to me.
This is their description of what it's about: "Where did the very first living thing on Earth come from? Scientists have long argued that billions of years ago, life emerged on its own—but no one knows exactly how. Now, in a landmark discovery, chemist John Sutherland has created the conditions in which the building blocks of RNA, one of the key molecules of life and the probable precursor to DNA, assemble themselves naturally." Here's the page with the video: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/o...-life.html It's only about 10 minutes. Enjoy! No amount of belief makes something a fact. -- James Randi It ain’t those parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand. -- Mark Twain |
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09-02-2013, 07:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-02-2013 11:57 AM by Bucky Ball.)
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RE: Revealing the Origins of Life
(09-02-2013 07:10 PM)Impulse Wrote: I came across this video and thought some people here may enjoy it. It's about 2 years old so it's not exactly news, but it was to me. Here's the first of a longer version of a set by the Harvard/Mass-General MD referenced in the vid. (Dr. Jack Szostak). Insufferable know-it-all. Apocalypse : pretty soon / Apprentice woologist in training.
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09-02-2013, 09:34 PM
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RE: Revealing the Origins of Life
I am of the thinking that the word 'life' is the problem. It pushes our minds away from thinking that all things are on a continuum.
Considering the timeline: Physics --> Chemistry --> Biology... Formation of the Earth ......... 4.5 billion years ago Stable hydrosphere ............. 4.2 by Prebiotic chemistry ............. 4.2-4 by Pre-RNA world ................... 3.8 by RNA world ......................... 4 by First DNA / protein 'life' ........ 3.6 by emergence of Darwinian evolution 'complexification' of early life us It's almost like asking: Where did the first 'soul' appear on the timeline? ![]() Better to think about the real 'missing link' that was the trigger that brought about the transition from a chemical system to Darwinian-style evolution. Miller-Urey FTW! Btw, Impulse, that vid is not available in my country. Dagnammit, Big Brother :shakesfist: The PURPOSE of life is to pass on our DNA (from Darwin) The MEANING of life is the experience of living (from Frank Herbert) The VALUE of life is the legacy we leave behind (from observation) |
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10-02-2013, 11:37 AM
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RE: Revealing the Origins of Life
(09-02-2013 07:59 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:Great info. Thanks Bucky.(09-02-2013 07:10 PM)Impulse Wrote: I came across this video and thought some people here may enjoy it. It's about 2 years old so it's not exactly news, but it was to me. No amount of belief makes something a fact. -- James Randi It ain’t those parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand. -- Mark Twain |
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10-02-2013, 11:39 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-02-2013 11:53 AM by Impulse.)
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RE: Revealing the Origins of Life
(09-02-2013 09:34 PM)DLJ Wrote: Btw, Impulse, that vid is not available in my country. Dagnammit, Big BrotherBummer! Sorry, I didn't know. That probably means it's not available outside USA. ![]() Edit: Here are some other pages that have the same video. Hopefully, at least one of them will work for you: http://www.thirteen.org/programs/nova-sc...s-of-life/ https://massasoit.instructure.com/course...sciencenow http://www.wgbh.org/programs/Nova-Scienc...Life-25153 No amount of belief makes something a fact. -- James Randi It ain’t those parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand. -- Mark Twain |
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11-02-2013, 10:08 AM
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RE: Revealing the Origins of Life
These questions might appear stupid, but still...
Since those conditions are still present, is still "new" life (by new I mean that: absolutely new) being created? If so, does it have the same base ADN as us, who evolved from ancient cells? DISCLAIMER: If you find a message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a message, complain to me and I will be happy to demonstrate. |
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11-02-2013, 10:21 AM
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RE: Revealing the Origins of Life
(11-02-2013 10:08 AM)KVron Wrote: These questions might appear stupid, but still... The conditions are not still present. At that time there was no free oxygen in the atmosphere, for instance. Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims. Science is not a subject, but a method. "We all got holes to fill, and them holes are all that's real; Some fall on you like a storm, sometimes you dig your own." |
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11-02-2013, 11:19 AM
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RE: Revealing the Origins of Life
(10-02-2013 11:39 AM)Impulse Wrote: ... Your effort is really appreciated but sadly none of the above available here
The PURPOSE of life is to pass on our DNA (from Darwin) The MEANING of life is the experience of living (from Frank Herbert) The VALUE of life is the legacy we leave behind (from observation) |
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