Right & Wrong on a Desert Isle
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29-10-2013, 11:26 AM
RE: Right & Wrong on a Desert Isle
(29-10-2013 11:23 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(29-10-2013 11:21 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  LaughatLaughat

We already knew that. Did you think that you needed this whole presentation to point that out to us?

You're silly.

You could've just asked.
"So you people all have different opinions about stuff, even the important stuff?"

We would say "Yes" , and get it over with.

And so do theists. There are thousands of theist moral systems, which do not agree.

And each individual in every theist moral system has his or her own beliefs as well Smile
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29-10-2013, 11:29 AM
RE: Right & Wrong on a Desert Isle
(29-10-2013 11:23 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(29-10-2013 11:21 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  LaughatLaughat

We already knew that. Did you think that you needed this whole presentation to point that out to us?

You're silly.

You could've just asked.
"So you people all have different opinions about stuff, even the important stuff?"

We would say "Yes" , and get it over with.

And so do theists. There are thousands of theist moral systems, which do not agree.
Yes, of course, I know.
I just find it hilarious that he thought that he is pointing out something that we didn't already know.
Like he was expecting us to go "omg, omg , we all think differently, what are we going to doooo? we better turn to the bible and learn to all think alike"
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29-10-2013, 11:44 AM
RE: Right & Wrong on a Desert Isle
*cheesy joke alert*
If we all became Christians, would we have to eat lambs instead if babies?
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29-10-2013, 12:07 PM
RE: Right & Wrong on a Desert Isle
I'd just like to reiterate my original take on this argument:

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But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.

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29-10-2013, 12:27 PM
RE: Right & Wrong on a Desert Isle
It is self-evident that recognition of the right of self-preservation in others, is in MY best interest, and the best interest of everyone else as well.

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29-10-2013, 12:49 PM
RE: Right & Wrong on a Desert Isle
Where you get it all wrong is that I am talking about each and every individual atheist has no basis for his/her morality.

Repeated attempts to turn this debate into a "so are you" and a "you're chicken if you don't answer" is what is plainly silly.

If a fellow atheist on a desert island deliberately kills your best friend because the fellow didn't like how your friend noisily slurped his coconut juice, the atheist "belief" can only say, "I personally didn't like that act, but what he did was acceptable because he decided that on his own."
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29-10-2013, 01:06 PM
RE: Right & Wrong on a Desert Isle
(29-10-2013 12:49 PM)Dearthair Wrote:  Where you get it all wrong is that I am talking about each and every individual atheist has no basis for his/her morality.

Repeated attempts to turn this debate into a "so are you" and a "you're chicken if you don't answer" is what is plainly silly.

If a fellow atheist on a desert island deliberately kills your best friend because the fellow didn't like how your friend noisily slurped his coconut juice, the atheist "belief" can only say, "I personally didn't like that act, but what he did was acceptable because he decided that on his own."
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No, we wouldn't. When there is a society, then we come to agreement on rules of behavior. We define right and wrong.

There have been studies that show that independent of what society or religion, people largely have the same basic sense of morality and ethics.

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29-10-2013, 01:06 PM
RE: Right & Wrong on a Desert Isle
And so it was foretold http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...#pid403870

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29-10-2013, 01:10 PM
RE: Right & Wrong on a Desert Isle
(29-10-2013 12:49 PM)Dearthair Wrote:  Where you get it all wrong is that I am talking about each and every individual atheist has no basis for his/her morality.

Repeated attempts to turn this debate into a "so are you" and a "you're chicken if you don't answer" is what is plainly silly.

If a fellow atheist on a desert island deliberately kills your best friend because the fellow didn't like how your friend noisily slurped his coconut juice, the atheist "belief" can only say, "I personally didn't like that act, but what he did was acceptable because he decided that on his own."
Hobo

If a fellow theist on a desert island deliberately kills your best friend because the fellow didn't like how your friend noisily slurped his coconut juice, the theist "belief" can only say, [i]"I personally didn't like that act, but what he did can be forgiven on repentance to our lord .

Theism is to believe what other people claim, Atheism is to ask "why should I".
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29-10-2013, 01:17 PM
RE: Right & Wrong on a Desert Isle
(29-10-2013 01:06 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(29-10-2013 12:49 PM)Dearthair Wrote:  Where you get it all wrong is that I am talking about each and every individual atheist has no basis for his/her morality.

Repeated attempts to turn this debate into a "so are you" and a "you're chicken if you don't answer" is what is plainly silly.

If a fellow atheist on a desert island deliberately kills your best friend because the fellow didn't like how your friend noisily slurped his coconut juice, the atheist "belief" can only say, "I personally didn't like that act, but what he did was acceptable because he decided that on his own."
Hobo

No, we wouldn't. When there is a society, then we come to agreement on rules of behavior. We define right and wrong.

There have been studies that show that independent of what society or religion, people largely have the same basic sense of morality and ethics.

Unfortunately, we are here talking about a desert island where there is no law. But, you are onto something there.
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