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01-12-2015, 07:17 AM (This post was last modified: 01-12-2015 07:22 AM by Tomasia.)
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(30-11-2015 05:12 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  Its simply a small story showing that atheism is the default position and in order to bring a god into the mix, it must be programmed (aka brain washed).

And once you've been programmed to see god everywhere then it becomes a useless waste of time and energy.

People don't need programming to believe in God, even children, even those raised by non-religious homes, tend to see the world as a part of a created order, inferring teleology everywhere, imagining pointy rocks as existing for porcupines to scratch their backs on. They tend to at early age intuitively believe in some vague god/s, nonspecific to any particular religion.

What does need programing, or involves an active effort is to get people to believe that our existence is a fluke. If you let a child grow without any particular influence one way or the other, without any real knowledge of any particular religion or atheistic views, they'll likely end up holding some vague spiritual beliefs, beliefs in some form of higher power, or energy, and some other brand of non-specific woo.

"Tell me, muse, of the storyteller who has been thrust to the edge of the world, both an infant and an ancient, and through him reveal everyman." ---Homer the aged poet.

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01-12-2015, 08:04 AM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(01-12-2015 07:17 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(30-11-2015 05:12 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  Its simply a small story showing that atheism is the default position and in order to bring a god into the mix, it must be programmed (aka brain washed).

And once you've been programmed to see god everywhere then it becomes a useless waste of time and energy.

People don't need programming to believe in God, even children, even those raised by non-religious homes, tend to see the world as a part of a created order, inferring teleology everywhere, imagining pointy rocks as existing for porcupines to scratch their backs on.
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there you go, issuing other folks' thoughts and opinions for them again.

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01-12-2015, 08:17 AM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(01-12-2015 08:04 AM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  
(01-12-2015 07:17 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  People don't need programming to believe in God, even children, even those raised by non-religious homes, tend to see the world as a part of a created order, inferring teleology everywhere, imagining pointy rocks as existing for porcupines to scratch their backs on.
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there you go, issuing other folks' thoughts and opinions for them again.

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01-12-2015, 08:18 AM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(01-12-2015 07:17 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(30-11-2015 05:12 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  Its simply a small story showing that atheism is the default position and in order to bring a god into the mix, it must be programmed (aka brain washed).

And once you've been programmed to see god everywhere then it becomes a useless waste of time and energy.

People don't need programming to believe in God, even children, even those raised by non-religious homes, tend to see the world as a part of a created order, inferring teleology everywhere, imagining pointy rocks as existing for porcupines to scratch their backs on. They tend to at early age intuitively believe in some vague god/s, nonspecific to any particular religion.

What does need programing, or involves an active effort is to get people to believe that our existence is a fluke. If you let a child grow without any particular influence one way or the other, without any real knowledge of any particular religion or atheistic views, they'll likely end up holding some vague spiritual beliefs, beliefs in some form of higher power, or energy, and some other brand of non-specific woo.

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Typical theist propaganda.

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01-12-2015, 08:34 AM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(01-12-2015 08:18 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Laughat
Typical theist propaganda.

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And this is just your anti-theistic bent. Nothing which I said validates theism, it's just pointing out what should be obvious, when considering the near universality of religious/spiritual beliefs among every culture that's ever existed. That they're built on intuitive assumptions, assumptions even children are inclined too.

"Tell me, muse, of the storyteller who has been thrust to the edge of the world, both an infant and an ancient, and through him reveal everyman." ---Homer the aged poet.

"In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
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01-12-2015, 08:37 AM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(01-12-2015 08:34 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(01-12-2015 08:18 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Laughat
Typical theist propaganda.

Still peddling that lie that you're not here to preach even when you post bullshit like this? Drinking Beverage


And this is just your anti-theistic bent. Nothing which I said validates theism, it's just pointing out what should be obvious, when considering the near universality of religious/spiritual beliefs among every culture that's ever existed. That they're built on intuitive assumptions, assumptions even children are inclined too.

You're on an atheist forum complaining about anti-theists and trying to defend (special pleading) your preaching.

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01-12-2015, 08:37 AM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(01-12-2015 07:17 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(30-11-2015 05:12 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  Its simply a small story showing that atheism is the default position and in order to bring a god into the mix, it must be programmed (aka brain washed).

And once you've been programmed to see god everywhere then it becomes a useless waste of time and energy.

People don't need programming to believe in God, even children, even those raised by non-religious homes, tend to see the world as a part of a created order, inferring teleology everywhere, imagining pointy rocks as existing for porcupines to scratch their backs on. They tend to at early age intuitively believe in some vague god/s, nonspecific to any particular religion.

What does need programing, or involves an active effort is to get people to believe that our existence is a fluke. If you let a child grow without any particular influence one way or the other, without any real knowledge of any particular religion or atheistic views, they'll likely end up holding some vague spiritual beliefs, beliefs in some form of higher power, or energy, and some other brand of non-specific woo.

Utter fucking bullshit.


ALL children are born atheist. Any religion they happen to pick up along the way in life is just regional contamination.

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01-12-2015, 08:38 AM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(01-12-2015 08:37 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  You're on an atheist forum complaining about anti-theists and trying to defend (special pleading) your preaching.

If correcting false assumptions constitutes as preachings, then I'm guilty as charged.

"Tell me, muse, of the storyteller who has been thrust to the edge of the world, both an infant and an ancient, and through him reveal everyman." ---Homer the aged poet.

"In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
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01-12-2015, 08:39 AM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(01-12-2015 08:38 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(01-12-2015 08:37 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  You're on an atheist forum complaining about anti-theists and trying to defend (special pleading) your preaching.

If correcting false assumptions constitutes as preachings, then I'm guilty as charged.

Except you didn't "correct" anything. You spouted off baseless theistic bullshit.

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01-12-2015, 08:44 AM
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(01-12-2015 08:37 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  ALL children are born atheist. Any religion they happen to pick up along the way in life is just regional contamination.

Do you believe that children are born absent of all beliefs?

Do you belief that beliefs require some rudimentary understanding of language?

"Tell me, muse, of the storyteller who has been thrust to the edge of the world, both an infant and an ancient, and through him reveal everyman." ---Homer the aged poet.

"In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
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