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01-12-2015, 09:36 AM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(01-12-2015 09:34 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(01-12-2015 09:26 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Gasp You don't even understand how to answer questions.

Shocking So much ignorance, so much intellectual dishonesty.

Drinking Beverage so not surprising

I'll take that to mean your holiday went well, good to hear that you enjoyed yourself.

Weeping You're too stupid to insult

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01-12-2015, 09:46 AM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(01-12-2015 09:36 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(01-12-2015 09:34 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  I'll take that to mean your holiday went well, good to hear that you enjoyed yourself.

Weeping You're too stupid to insult

Touché

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01-12-2015, 09:48 AM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(01-12-2015 09:46 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(01-12-2015 09:36 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Weeping You're too stupid to insult

Touché

The only worthy thing you have ever posted is this single word, as it is an insult of yourself.

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01-12-2015, 09:54 AM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(01-12-2015 09:48 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(01-12-2015 09:46 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  Touché

The only worthy thing you have ever posted is this single word, as it is an insult of yourself.

Did you guys make sweet potatoes, like last year? If you add some pecans and marshmallows, they tend to taste very good.

Did you cut the turkey this year, or was it the old man again?

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01-12-2015, 08:12 PM
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Tomasia, do you think a robot that can sense the environment around them, could also sense the presence of a god, if one existed ?

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01-12-2015, 08:33 PM
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I think it is great that they make braille for reading and signs. But if I ever lose my eyesight how the heck am I going to look at online porn?

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02-12-2015, 02:16 PM
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(01-12-2015 08:12 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  Tomasia, do you think a robot that can sense the environment around them, could also sense the presence of a god, if one existed ?

I wouldn't even know where to begin with that one? Is this robot conscious, or is it merely preprogrammed to recognize various particles and forces in the environment?

Ignoring the robot part, wouldn't God have to be reducible to particular detectable force and particles in the environment, that should if we had the proper technological equipment be able to detect?

Suppose someone were to infer that there's a higher power, a transcendent order to our world, by the sheer excess of beauty, the profound moral dimensions of humanity, its creative and rational capacities, leaving him incapable of believing this was all just a cosmic fluke, what exactly would the robot be detecting here? Would those detections allow the robot to extend beyond it's inference of measurements, to larger ontological conclusions? Would it be able to draw conclusions that life has a moral arc or not, life has intrinsic meaning, or whether it's inherently nihilistic? Can it comprehend tragedy, or joy, or suffering or love, or goodness, to even begin to ask the question of God?

I couldn't conceive of where to even begin to create a robot capable of this, though men draw such conclusions all the time, one way or the other.

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02-12-2015, 09:38 PM
RE: Robotic seeing eye dog
(02-12-2015 02:16 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(01-12-2015 08:12 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  Tomasia, do you think a robot that can sense the environment around them, could also sense the presence of a god, if one existed ?

I wouldn't even know where to begin with that one? Is this robot conscious, or is it merely preprogrammed to recognize various particles and forces in the environment?

Ignoring the robot part, wouldn't God have to be reducible to particular detectable force and particles in the environment, that should if we had the proper technological equipment be able to detect?

Suppose someone were to infer that there's a higher power, a transcendent order to our world, by the sheer excess of beauty, the profound moral dimensions of humanity, its creative and rational capacities, leaving him incapable of believing this was all just a cosmic fluke, what exactly would the robot be detecting here? Would those detections allow the robot to extend beyond it's inference of measurements, to larger ontological conclusions? Would it be able to draw conclusions that life has a moral arc or not, life has intrinsic meaning, or whether it's inherently nihilistic? Can it comprehend tragedy, or joy, or suffering or love, or goodness, to even begin to ask the question of God?

I couldn't conceive of where to even begin to create a robot capable of this, though men draw such conclusions all the time, one way or the other.

You've basically said that people invent a god because they can't accept nature or natural occurrences.

You don't think a robot that can detect the environment would detect a god, because deep down you know that such a being doesn't physically exist and that's why you must infer that one exists.

You have the need for a god to exist because you need to know that someone is steering the boat. It would terrify you to be on a boat, traveling down a river, with no one in charge.

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