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13-08-2015, 01:25 PM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(13-08-2015 01:13 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(13-08-2015 01:11 PM)pablo Wrote:  Wouldn't loading the dice be a way of forcing a fortuitous outcome as you suggested earlier?

The telling sign of his use of language is that his first instinct was to think there was intent when an outcome seemed improbable.

Also, when two identical outcomes produce identical benefits, only the one that was manipulated by an intelligent force seems somehow more legitimate .
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13-08-2015, 01:31 PM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(13-08-2015 01:25 PM)pablo Wrote:  
(13-08-2015 01:13 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  The telling sign of his use of language is that his first instinct was to think there was intent when an outcome seemed improbable.

Also, when two identical outcomes produce identical benefits, only the one that was manipulated by an intelligent force seems somehow more legitimate .

That's just a fluke coincidence Wink

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13-08-2015, 01:37 PM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(13-08-2015 01:12 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  "Fluke accidents"? First you say unintentional is akin to fluke or accidents, now it is a "fluke accident" and your attempt at language masturbation is growing even more convoluted.

"The Dallas Zoo defended its past safety record Wednesday and said Kipenzi's death was a fluke accident and not the result of a zookeeper's "

http://www.nbcdfw.com/investigations/Dal...04691.html

"Dancing With the Stars pro Derek Hough injured both his feet after a fluke accident involving stairs.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news...rs-2015224

" A 25 year old soldier from Warrington has died while training on the east coast. Bombardier H Hardman suffered from fatal injuries from a fluke accident."

http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news...sed_to_be/

Just just a few, of the 450 news articles using the term "fluke accident" on a Google news search.

The point being that the term "fluke" doesn't require the outcome to be fortuitous (beneficial).
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13-08-2015, 01:38 PM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(13-08-2015 01:11 PM)pablo Wrote:  Wouldn't loading the dice be a way of forcing a fortuitous outcome as you suggested earlier?

Of course it does. But then again, the outcome of loaded dice wouldn't be a fluke.
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13-08-2015, 01:42 PM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(13-08-2015 01:37 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(13-08-2015 01:12 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  "Fluke accidents"? First you say unintentional is akin to fluke or accidents, now it is a "fluke accident" and your attempt at language masturbation is growing even more convoluted.

"The Dallas Zoo defended its past safety record Wednesday and said Kipenzi's death was a fluke accident and not the result of a zookeeper's "

http://www.nbcdfw.com/investigations/Dal...04691.html

"Dancing With the Stars pro Derek Hough injured both his feet after a fluke accident involving stairs.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news...rs-2015224

" A 25 year old soldier from Warrington has died while training on the east coast. Bombardier H Hardman suffered from fatal injuries from a fluke accident."

http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news...sed_to_be/

Just just a few, of the 450 news articles using the term "fluke accident" on a Google news search.

The point being that the term "fluke" doesn't require the outcome to be fortuitous (beneficial).

Facepalm

You synonymize unintentional with fluke or accident, then dispute the term fluke, then call it a "fluke accident" while disputing the meaning of the word fluke as it was used.

You really don't see your idiotic hypocrisy, do you?

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13-08-2015, 01:43 PM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(13-08-2015 01:38 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(13-08-2015 01:11 PM)pablo Wrote:  Wouldn't loading the dice be a way of forcing a fortuitous outcome as you suggested earlier?

Of course it does. But then again, the outcome of loaded dice wouldn't be a fluke.

But it would have been intentional whereas an event without an entity to have intent, wouldn't be unintentional.

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13-08-2015, 01:57 PM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(13-08-2015 01:42 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  You synonymize unintentional with fluke or accident, then dispute the term fluke, then call it a "fluke accident" while disputing the meaning of the word fluke as it was used.

You really don't see your idiotic hypocrisy, do you?

This is kind of funny.

I disputed Chas's claim that a fluke requires a beneficial outcome, by providing a variety of examples in which it doesn't. A fluke could be beneficial, it could be neutral, it could even be disastrous.
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13-08-2015, 02:00 PM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(13-08-2015 01:38 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(13-08-2015 01:11 PM)pablo Wrote:  Wouldn't loading the dice be a way of forcing a fortuitous outcome as you suggested earlier?

Of course it does. But then again, the outcome of loaded dice wouldn't be a fluke.

That's correct, loading the dice shows intent.
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13-08-2015, 02:00 PM
Rocks with bad intentions
(13-08-2015 01:57 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(13-08-2015 01:42 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  You synonymize unintentional with fluke or accident, then dispute the term fluke, then call it a "fluke accident" while disputing the meaning of the word fluke as it was used.

You really don't see your idiotic hypocrisy, do you?

This is kind of funny.

I disputed Chas's claim that a fluke requires a beneficial outcome, by providing a variety of examples in which it doesn't. A fluke could be beneficial, it could be neutral, it could even be disastrous.

The way the term is used by those you've misquoted with respect to the existence of the universe.

You're amused by you bullshit? Guess someone has to be. Drinking Beverage

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13-08-2015, 02:07 PM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(13-08-2015 02:00 PM)pablo Wrote:  
(13-08-2015 01:38 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  Of course it does. But then again, the outcome of loaded dice wouldn't be a fluke.

That's correct, loading the dice shows intent.

It does.

Where as if it wasn't loaded, or something of the sort, it would be a fluke.
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