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15-08-2015, 05:32 AM (This post was last modified: 15-08-2015 05:42 AM by Tomasia.)
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(14-08-2015 07:21 PM)Unbeliever Wrote:  
(14-08-2015 07:03 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  None of these questions need to be answered to assume intention, just like I can infer my house was robbed without having answers for similar questions about the robber.

All of this is irrelevant unless you can actually demonstrate intent.

You can't.

By "demonstration" you mean provide proof of intent?

Like in the observation of the DICE that rolled 20s, a hundred times straight. That in order to "demonstrate" that the dice were weighted, we'd have to inspect the dice, rather than infer it from the rolls? Pointing out the dice rolled 20s a hundred times in a row wouldn't demonstrate for you that they were weighted, right?
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15-08-2015, 05:39 AM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(14-08-2015 07:33 PM)Chas Wrote:  Your whole view is circular - you seem to see intention, then make up some entity to be the intentional agent because you see intention so it need an intender ...

The question as to whether or not something was intentional, is not the same question as to who or what those intentional agents are.

If one were to say the intentional agent/s were the illuminati, or that they were Allah, or Jehovah, all these assumptions involve an entirely different sent of questions, as well as entirely different argument than the one here, which is about intentionality, than the qualities and features of the intentional agent.
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15-08-2015, 05:42 AM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(15-08-2015 05:39 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(14-08-2015 07:33 PM)Chas Wrote:  Your whole view is circular - you seem to see intention, then make up some entity to be the intentional agent because you see intention so it need an intender ...

The question as to whether or not something was intentional, is not the same question as to who or what those intentional agents are.

If one were to say the intentional agent/s were the illuminati, or that they were Allah, or Jehovah, all these assumptions involve an entirely different sent of questions, as well as entirely different argument than the one here, which is about intentionality, than the qualities and features of the intentional agent.

If there is intent, there must be an intentional entity.
Please address the main point: where and why do you see intent?

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15-08-2015, 05:47 AM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(15-08-2015 05:42 AM)Chas Wrote:  If there is intent, there must be an intentional entity.

If there is intent, there must be an intentional entity, is correct.

Quote:Please address the main point: where and why do you see intent?

In this discussion, intent is being inferred from the weighted die.
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15-08-2015, 05:58 AM
Rocks with bad intentions
(15-08-2015 05:47 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(15-08-2015 05:42 AM)Chas Wrote:  If there is intent, there must be an intentional entity.

If there is intent, there must be an intentional entity, is correct.

Quote:Please address the main point: where and why do you see intent?

In this discussion, intent is being inferred from the weighted die.

Where are the weighted die/dice of the universe? And show that they are weighted by an intentional entity.


(Also, you've assumed weighted die, but continue to ignore the statistics as an explanation for the die not being weighted.)

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15-08-2015, 05:59 AM
RE: Rocks with bad intentions
(15-08-2015 05:47 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(15-08-2015 05:42 AM)Chas Wrote:  If there is intent, there must be an intentional entity.

If there is intent, there must be an intentional entity, is correct.

Quote:Please address the main point: where and why do you see intent?

In this discussion, intent is being inferred from the weighted die.

No, that is a sideshow. Where in the universe do you see intent?

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15-08-2015, 06:00 AM
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(14-08-2015 07:03 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(14-08-2015 06:30 PM)Chas Wrote:  Not that crappy analogy again. Facepalm

You didn't understand what I wrote. By "environment" I mean what was its existence. Was it a different universe? This universe before the Big Bang? A parallel universe?

You make up an intentional deity without any evidence of existence. Don't you see the absurdity of that?

None of these questions need to be answered to assume intention, just like I can infer my house was robbed without having answers for similar questions about the robber.

We could be living in some computer simulation, if we were, we can likely figure that out without knowing a single thing about who or what created the program.

More shitty examples in an attempt to ignore your responsibility in validating your claims.

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15-08-2015, 06:04 AM
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(15-08-2015 05:59 AM)Chas Wrote:  No, that is a sideshow. Where in the universe do you see intent?

In the weighted die.
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15-08-2015, 06:06 AM
Rocks with bad intentions
(15-08-2015 06:04 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(15-08-2015 05:59 AM)Chas Wrote:  No, that is a sideshow. Where in the universe do you see intent?

In the weighted die.

Where are the universe's weighted die and how have you determined they are weighted?

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15-08-2015, 06:08 AM
Rocks with bad intentions
And how have you measured them as weighted? And how do you know what entity (or any entity) to assign the weighting of the die too? How do you know the weighting was intentional and not a circumstance of the die's construction (such that there was no entity involved)?

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