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07-03-2012, 02:27 AM (This post was last modified: 07-03-2012 02:46 AM by mysticjbyrd.)
Ron Paul 2012?
Germanyt is always ranting about Ron Paul, so even though I don't vote I decided to actually go look him up. I opened up google, typed 'ron paul wiki', and started reading the political positions section and came across this gem.

"Paul is a proponent of Austrian School economics...."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul

Then I stopped reading.

Trickle Down Economics hasn't worked for the people in 30 years. (Not that it ever could, its not a legitimate economic plan, its an economic scam.)
Ron Paul's solution? Double down on trickle down economics, ROFL!!!

Yup, nothing to see here folks, just another corporate owned right wing nutjob.

Edit: I just read the rest, and I can't see ANYTHING non-crazy here. I don't get it, whats good about this guy again?
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07-03-2012, 03:11 AM
RE: Ron Paul 2012?
Voting is the only thing that gives people the vague sense of hope that they actually live in a democracy. If he does get into power then he will have a lot of money to contend with if he wants to change things.....he needs to do it quick as well with some balls (within the next elections) because if not, he will just be accused of being the fall guy to a lot of woes he will inherit.

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07-03-2012, 03:28 AM (This post was last modified: 07-03-2012 03:36 AM by satan69.)
RE: Ron Paul 2012?
you really dont understand austrian economics. trickle down doesnt work when they screw it all up. its like saying seatbelts dont work if it's east west across the neck.

true austrian economics is: have as small a government as possible so you dont have to have a income tax , and have a flat consumption tax of say 10%. you would keep all your money and invest it save it or spend it. the less money in the governments hand the better. the politicians cant print money or run a deficit. balanced budgets every year. market interest rates so you dont have bubbles. the more savings in the banks across the US- the lower the rates.les savings-higher rates.politicians are all corrupt across the world. they might not start that way but they always end up there. no bailouts. gold standard so you protect your purchasing power. the quickest way from a 3rd world country to 1st world is austrian economics. once china started to add free market economics they started to become rich. they still have problems but they are now the second biggest economy. saying austrian economics doesnt work is like saying lifting weights doesnt help build muscle. buy this cartoon book on austrian economics. its the greatest most simple to understand book on economics ever written:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78a84qbT5-w

I learned more from this book then i did in a year econ class in high school
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07-03-2012, 05:26 AM (This post was last modified: 07-03-2012 05:49 AM by mysticjbyrd.)
RE: Ron Paul 2012?
(07-03-2012 03:28 AM)satan69 Wrote:  you really dont understand austrian economics. trickle down doesnt work when they screw it all up. its like saying seatbelts dont work if it's east west across the neck.

true austrian economics is: have as small a government as possible so you dont have to have a income tax , and have a flat consumption tax of say 10%. you would keep all your money and invest it save it or spend it. the less money in the governments hand the better. the politicians cant print money or run a deficit. balanced budgets every year. market interest rates so you dont have bubbles. the more savings in the banks across the US- the lower the rates.les savings-higher rates.politicians are all corrupt across the world. they might not start that way but they always end up there. no bailouts. gold standard so you protect your purchasing power. the quickest way from a 3rd world country to 1st world is austrian economics. once china started to add free market economics they started to become rich. they still have problems but they are now the second biggest economy. saying austrian economics doesnt work is like saying lifting weights doesnt help build muscle. buy this cartoon book on austrian economics. its the greatest most simple to understand book on economics ever written:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78a84qbT5-w

I learned more from this book then i did in a year econ class in high school

Wait aren't you the guy that stated slave labor is too expensive....so I doubt you actually learned anything about economics from either.


Trickle down economics doesn't work period. Unless in this situation your definition of "work" translates into making the wealthy wealthier, then sure it works great.

Best case scenario for Trickle down Economics: If you give the wealthy more money, the only reason they would bother to create a job is if that job in turn made them even more money. Even if you make the laughable assumption they can somehow convert these bad job creating investments into god ones, then all you are really doing is causing the disparity between rich and poor to skyrocket. Thats bad btw...just making sure I clarify that..

Now what happens in reality is quite different,
More often than not the money can be better invested overseas, or an investment that doesn't create jobs. Of course the vast majority of that money doesn't actually make it back into the economy, and certainly nowhere near the bottom of the pyramid.



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07-03-2012, 06:01 AM (This post was last modified: 07-03-2012 06:14 AM by satan69.)
RE: Ron Paul 2012?
I said slavery was wrong and it didnt even produce the wealth these idiots thought it did, because they had to pay for every need of the slave 24/7. in a capitalist society, the cotton pickers get a salary and keeps the whole paycheck. they then spend that money in the community bars, restaurants, and everywhere else.everyone is better for it. if a bar provides shitty service, they go bk. the government doesnt keep them open and subsidize the bar, because the workers are union and politically connected. unforunately,they ccontinue their horrible business model. i call it the dmv bar. in true capitalism lebron james will always make more then the bartender. as it should be, since i wasnt born with those gifts that allow me to make my owner 100's of millions. capitalism rewards steve wynn who is the best casino developer in history and should punish donald trump casinos for not providing the same experience. steve wynn is a billionaire but provides a 100,000 jobs for people to better themselves and become richer. trump casinos go bk and cant provide those jobs. you want more billionaires like wynn and less trumps that cant provide as many jobs.

you socialists just dont understand. you will never know. this video explains it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHipzGL4dwM
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07-03-2012, 07:28 AM
RE: Ron Paul 2012?
Neither of ya know nothing. Big Grin

I'm thinking Paul 'cause I'm thinking the Fed sux. He makes the right kinda noises; but they're all criminals. Tongue

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07-03-2012, 07:32 AM
RE: Ron Paul 2012?
(07-03-2012 07:28 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Neither of ya know nothing. Big Grin

I'm thinking Paul 'cause I'm thinking the Fed sux. He makes the right kinda noises; but they're all criminals. Tongue

Its true he wants to end the fed but has he said what he has to replace it???

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07-03-2012, 08:40 AM
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http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdispla...the-Issues

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07-03-2012, 09:10 AM
RE: Ron Paul 2012?
What's a Ron Paul? Is it like a dirty sanchez?

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07-03-2012, 09:29 AM (This post was last modified: 07-03-2012 09:57 AM by mysticjbyrd.)
RE: Ron Paul 2012?
Ron Paul Political positions

Proponent of Austrian School economics & laissez-faire policies.-
(Heterodox economics at its worst.)

Completely obsessed with states rights-
(He must of been taught with one of those Texas History books that omitted Thomas Jefferson, slavery, and the civil war.)

He has pledged never to raise taxes
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(What kind of jackass takes a pledge to never even consider something? If he is going dismiss something without thought. then he should be cast aside in the same fashion.)

Paul has a consistent record as an inflation hawk, having warned of the threat of hyperinflation as far back as 1981 -
(So he has only been wrong for 30 years, yet still thinks he knows something about economics....interesting.)

Paul's foreign policy is nonintervention & he advocates withdrawal from the United Nations -
(I don't get it, why would you even want to cut off relations with all the other countries?)

He endorses increased border security and opposes welfare for illegal aliens, birthright citizenship and amnesty; he voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006
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(That is an awesome plan. Build a small fence for billions that can easily be circumnavigated, or simply overcome with a $1 pair of wire snips, or even a stick you pick up along the way. BRILLIANT!!)

Paul also believes that the notion of the 'separation of church and state' is a mere metaphor, which is being misused by the court system: -
(Ahh nope. . . that's just his religion bias talking! Yah, he definitely had the reworked history book when he grew up.)

He terms himself "strongly pro-life","an unshakable foe of abortion", and believes regulation or ban on medical decisions about maternal or fetal health is "best handled at the state level". -
(So he wants to strip women of all their rights regarding abortion, when the earth is severely overpopulated. Just because of his faith, which doesn't even technically mention abortion.)

He pushes to eliminate federal involvement with and management of health care. -
(Yes, just forget about the 45k people who die every year because they don't have health insurance, and the countless others who suffer daily without medical treatment. That is an amazing health care plan!! After all if we forget about all those people, along with all the people who think they have insurance but get dropped on their ass the second they try to collect, ohh and the people in poor areas, then we have the best health care in the world!!)

As a free-market environmentalist, he asserts private property rights in relation to environmental protection and pollution prevention. -
(Which is a nice way of saying, if you own the property you can pollute all you want. Never mind the fact that shit goes down hill.)

He called global warming a hoax-
(Yah, I mean there is only 97-98% consensus of climatologist all across the globe, along with completely obvious examples all around us. I am sure all those scientist secretly own stock in hand fan company though!! Just as soon as they get the govt to buy their story, and it causes a mass panic, man are the dollars gonna roll in.)

Paul was critical of the Civil Rights Act of 1964
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(So discriminating based on race is not a bad thing...interesting position. At least he has the balls to be an open racist I suppose.)


With political positions like this the only thing Ron Paul is qualified to run is McDonalds.
How is this guy any different from the regular republicans? Even atheist should drop to their knees and pray this guy loses.
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