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04-12-2015, 07:00 AM
RE: Root Causes: San Bernardino, California shooting
Perhaps if one has an hour to kill, one can watch this discussion with one of my favourite historians. The discussion extends beyond the basic thread idea. Yet it deals directly with it at the same time. Listen to all the Halliburton contracts!

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04-12-2015, 08:15 AM
RE: Root Causes: San Bernardino, California shooting
(02-12-2015 05:13 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  
(02-12-2015 05:09 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  Also the automatic rifle ban that California has.

Uhh... no....

California banned easily detachable "high capacity" magazines in semi-auto rifles..

And the gun owners there, have already figured out a way around it.....

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I was right kind of!

Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989 is an Assault Weapon ban in California that bans most semi automatic rifles and some pistols and shotguns unless under specific circumstances, I.E the buyer is law enforcement. Also California has the toughest gun laws in the United States.

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04-12-2015, 08:45 AM
RE: Root Causes: San Bernardino, California shooting
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04-12-2015, 09:16 AM
RE: Root Causes: San Bernardino, California shooting
Because there is no required registration of firearms unlike say vehicles, there is no way to track who has what (you can thank the NRA for opposing every single bill that has ever come up).

Here we have a situation (see link) where an individual has stockpiled 5,000 weapons, many stolen, had filed off many of the serial numbers and had them in his house, investigators are looking into the possibility of being a mass supplier to the Northeast States.
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The status quo isn’t working people, somethings needs to change.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-gu...uYiLTMr.97

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I think at the very least weapons, like vehicles, should be registered when purchased and reported when stolen. Just like vehicles a permit/tag has to be renewed every year.
Are there ways around this? Of course, just as there are ways around stealing a car, taking it to a chop shop or a dock to ship elsewhere. Will authorities red-flag you if you own 5 rifles and handguns? Not if you aren’t a felon. 50? That might raise an eyebrow. 500 or 5,000 fuck yeah, you better be a legitimate dealer.

We’re not talking about some guy collecting coins, stamps or cars. Individuals aren’t a “well regulated militia” and the US citizenry needs to come to grips with this.

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04-12-2015, 09:30 AM
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(04-12-2015 09:16 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  Because there is no required registration of firearms unlike say vehicles, there is no way to track who has what (you can thank the NRA for opposing every single bill that has ever come up).

Here we have a situation (see link) where an individual has stockpiled 5,000 weapons, many stolen, had filed off many of the serial numbers and had them in his house, investigators are looking into the possibility of being a mass supplier to the Northeast States.
5, 0 0 0

The status quo isn’t working people, somethings needs to change.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-gu...uYiLTMr.97

Personal rant follows.
I think at the very least weapons, like vehicles, should be registered when purchased and reported when stolen. Just like vehicles a permit/tag has to be renewed every year.
Are there ways around this? Of course, just as there are ways around stealing a car, taking it to a chop shop or a dock to ship elsewhere. Will authorities red-flag you if you own 5 rifles and handguns? Not if you aren’t a felon. 50? That might raise an eyebrow. 500 or 5,000 fuck yeah, you better be a legitimate dealer.

We’re not talking about some guy collecting coins, stamps or cars. Individuals aren’t a “well regulated militia” and the US citizenry needs to come to grips with this.

Driving isn't a constitutional right.

Well regulated doesn't mean what you think it means. We are the militia. Individual citizens make up the militia. There doesn't need to be a monthly meeting once a month to be a member or anything. Well regulated meant well armed and well trained. That's why troops used to be called "regulars." Because they were regulated. Well armed.

And we are very well armed.

This can't be INFRINGED upon by laws. It has to be changed by amendment.

Good luck with that. 100 million regulated folks will have something to say about it.

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04-12-2015, 09:37 AM
RE: Root Causes: San Bernardino, California shooting
(04-12-2015 09:30 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Well regulated doesn't mean what you think it means.

Right back at you. The guy in the story with the 5,000 weapons must be part of that “well regulated militia” you speak of?

We can sit here and debate what it means from now until the next mass killing, active shooter incident, 4 year old shoots sibling headline. But leaving things as they are does nothing to change this.

Supporting the status quo is the same as sticking your head in the sand.

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04-12-2015, 10:13 AM
RE: Root Causes: San Bernardino, California shooting
Quote:“We do not yet know the motive,” David Bow­dich, assistant director in charge of the FBI’s Los Angeles office, said at a news conference. “It would be irresponsible and premature for me to call this terrorism.”

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04-12-2015, 10:15 AM
RE: Root Causes: San Bernardino, California shooting
(04-12-2015 09:37 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 09:30 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Well regulated doesn't mean what you think it means.

Right back at you. The guy in the story with the 5,000 weapons must be part of that “well regulated militia” you speak of?

We can sit here and debate what it means from now until the next mass killing, active shooter incident, 4 year old shoots sibling headline. But leaving things as they are does nothing to change this.

Supporting the status quo is the same as sticking your head in the sand.

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No, guy in the story is a criminal trafficking in stolen guns. Mass shooter is a criminal. Active shooters are criminals. And parents that leave their guns where children can reach them should be criminals and are in a lot of states. Don't restrict me for the actions of others. That's called "blanket punishment."

Punish the criminals. Stop the mentally ill from acquiring guns. Make mandatory life in prison for gun crimes.

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04-12-2015, 11:03 AM
RE: Root Causes: San Bernardino, California shooting
(04-12-2015 10:15 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  No, guy in the story is a criminal trafficking in stolen guns.

This guy wasn't. The LAPD believes all of his 1200 guns were obtained legally.

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04-12-2015, 11:32 AM
RE: Root Causes: San Bernardino, California shooting
(04-12-2015 11:03 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(04-12-2015 10:15 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  No, guy in the story is a criminal trafficking in stolen guns.

This guy wasn't. The LAPD believes all of his 1200 guns were obtained legally.

Looks like a case of "tacti-cool." Tactical wannabe. Harmless dork. 1200 guns, all obtained legally apparently. None of them hurt anybody. Only "crime" here would be not having these firearms in a safe. That's just stupid to have them sitting in a room.

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