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02-10-2015, 12:38 PM
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(02-10-2015 12:35 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(02-10-2015 08:59 AM)Alla Wrote:  What Obama couldn't do, Putin will do.
But it is better if Russians and Iranians destroy ISIS than Americans would do this.
Let them kill each other. This is how God gets rid of evil guys. He lays back, gets His popcorn and watches how they destroy each other. Very smart.

Let us assume the Russians destroy ISIS. The won't be leaving the middle east anytime soon and this is very bad for us as long as we are dependent on oil from the middle east.

That could also be a stronger catalyst to stop depending on such oil and reduce the cost of supplying resources and forces in that area. Instead re-directing that job & money power towards boosting alternative sources of energy.

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02-10-2015, 12:44 PM
RE: Russia begins airstrikes against Syria
(02-10-2015 12:38 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  That could also be a stronger catalyst to stop depending on such oil and reduce the cost of supplying resources and forces in that area. Instead re-directing that job & money power towards boosting alternative sources of energy.

The reason oil is such a great energy source is because of its energy density. Until we find ways to store energy as dense as oil stores it, Alternative energy sources aren't going to help much.

If you want to make the middle east un-important. Solve fusion and learn to make batteries with 10 times the energy density they currently have.
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02-10-2015, 12:57 PM
RE: Russia begins airstrikes against Syria
(02-10-2015 09:19 AM)Imathinker Wrote:  
(02-10-2015 08:59 AM)Alla Wrote:  What Obama couldn't do, Putin will do.
But it is better if Russians and Iranians destroy ISIS than Americans would do this.
Let them kill each other. This is how God gets rid of evil guys. He lays back, gets His popcorn and watches how they destroy each other. Very smart.

Maybe this is a little dark, but was god sitting back eating popcorn during the school shooting?

The difference between god sitting back and doing nothing and god not existing at all is painfully slim.

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02-10-2015, 01:04 PM
RE: Russia begins airstrikes against Syria
(02-10-2015 12:35 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Let us assume the Russians destroy ISIS. The won't be leaving the middle east anytime soon and this is very bad for us as long as we are dependent on oil from the middle east.

I actually think it's good for them to be in the Middle East. They won't be able to interdict our oil, because most of our oil doesn't come from the Middle East anyways. In the meantime, it will be them spending blood and treasure trying to buy influence in a region that despises all outsiders.

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02-10-2015, 01:28 PM (This post was last modified: 02-10-2015 01:35 PM by pablo.)
RE: Russia begins airstrikes against Syria
(02-10-2015 12:44 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(02-10-2015 12:38 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  That could also be a stronger catalyst to stop depending on such oil and reduce the cost of supplying resources and forces in that area. Instead re-directing that job & money power towards boosting alternative sources of energy.

The reason oil is such a great energy source is because of its energy density. Until we find ways to store energy as dense as oil stores it, Alternative energy sources aren't going to help much.

If you want to make the middle east un-important. Solve fusion and learn to make batteries with 10 times the energy density they currently have.

The powers that be dont care if us civilians drive around in electric cars. They need something that will power war machines as good or better than oil. As soon as someone comes out with a fighter jet like that, we have a winner. (so to speak)
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03-10-2015, 05:19 AM
RE: Russia begins airstrikes against Syria
Step one, rebels and the stabilization of Assad's control. Step two, annihilate ISIS from multiple fronts.

Do I need to explain how this will affect our dealings with all those countries we previously tried to manage through the overuse of sanctions? And anyone wanna take bets on who Iraq goes to once this is done, and how long it will be until Ukraine is rolled over by this alliance as the rest of the world sits back and strongly condemns their actions?

Getting out the popcorn to enjoy the show. And yeah, I'd better start hitting the range more to brush up on my craft. A shitstorm is on the way.

Assad allies, including Iranians, prepare ground attack in Syria

Quote:(Reuters) - Hundreds of Iranian troops have arrived in Syria in the last 10 days and will soon join government forces and their Lebanese Hezbollah allies in a major ground offensive backed by Russian air strikes, two Lebanese sources told Reuters.

"The (Russian) air strikes will in the near future be accompanied by ground advances by the Syrian army and its allies," said one of the sources familiar with political and military developments in the conflict.

"It is possible that the coming land operations will be focused in the Idlib and Hama countryside," the source added.

The two sources said the operation would be aimed at recapturing territory lost by President Bashar al-Assad's government to rebels.

It points to an emerging military alliance between Russia and Assad's other main allies - Iran and Hezbollah - focused on recapturing areas of northwestern Syria that were seized by insurgents in rapid advances earlier this year.

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05-10-2015, 06:32 AM
RE: Russia begins airstrikes against Syria
(02-10-2015 08:54 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(02-10-2015 07:33 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  JV?
yes, "JV" according to president Obama.

Sorry, I'm not sure what JV means. Are you saying that Obama referred to ISIS/ISIL/IS/DAECH/whatever-else-they're-called as "JW"?

Either way, what does "JW" stand for?
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05-10-2015, 06:36 AM
RE: Russia begins airstrikes against Syria
(02-10-2015 08:59 AM)Alla Wrote:  Let them kill each other. This is how God gets rid of evil guys. He lays back, gets His popcorn and watches how they destroy each other. Very smart.
(02-10-2015 09:31 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(02-10-2015 09:19 AM)Imathinker Wrote:  Maybe this is a little dark, but was god sitting back eating popcorn during the school shooting?
No, He is sad when evil people chose to do evil.

So, when evil people inadvertently do good things, this is God being very smart, but when evil people do evil things, it is very sad?

Both of these cases are defined by inaction on God's part. How can the first be attributed to God being smart (unless the "smart" part you meant was him choosing to eat popcorn)?

If the first is a case of God being smart, and the second is "sad", how do we refer to God's choice of inaction in the second case? Also smart? Dumb? Depraved indifference? Something else? Why?
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05-10-2015, 09:55 PM
RE: Russia begins airstrikes against Syria
(02-10-2015 09:19 AM)Imathinker Wrote:  
(02-10-2015 08:59 AM)Alla Wrote:  What Obama couldn't do, Putin will do.
But it is better if Russians and Iranians destroy ISIS than Americans would do this.
Let them kill each other. This is how God gets rid of evil guys. He lays back, gets His popcorn and watches how they destroy each other. Very smart.

Maybe this is a little dark, but was god sitting back eating popcorn during the school shooting?

Certainly was during the holocaust. Butter and everything on that popcorn, dvd recorder on record for future fapping material.

Quote:Let us assume the Russians destroy ISIS. The won't be leaving the middle east anytime soon and this is very bad for us as long as we are dependent on oil from the middle east.

You're not dependent on oil from the middle east.
There is oil all over the world. Africa, SA, USA, hell even Russia if you wanted to go down that route.

A more accurate statement would be "as long as we are dependent on the Middle East selling oil to keep supply up and thus prices of oil down so our profits continue to skyrocket".



Regarding the OP. The US gets involved/has been involved in this whole Iraq/ISIS thing for decades now. It's hypocritical to condemn one nation for wanting to prop up it's favorable regime when the west has been doing it for decades and continues to do it. We (and by we I mean the US) has even assassinated democratically elected anti-US presidents for favorable pro-US dictators. If Assad was pro-US you can bet your bottom dollar the US would have been leading airstrikes against the rebels.

In saying that, because the US is the US this Russian interference is just gonna redirect US airstrikes towards Assad and away from ISIS which means ISIS is just gonna get stronger which means this shit is gonna drag on and on.

If the US was serious about destroying ISIS (which it should be because Assad has no interest in crashing planes into US buildings whereas ISIS on the other hand...) they would not hit Assad, let Russia help him defeat the Rebels and keep focusing on ISIS and hope Assad attacks ISIS when he gets his power back.

That way the US can work with Assad (and Russia) to defeat ISIS, strengthen relations there. And than if they still wanna get rid of Assad just defend the Kurds when he attacks them (even though the US wont because Turkey doesn't like the Kurds and the US wants to keep getting some bumfuckery from Turkey).

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05-10-2015, 11:12 PM
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I thought Assad was bad cause he used chemical weapons against his civilians. I think it's all a delicate game of pretending to give a shit about his human rights abuses which makes the West support the rebels. Their own populations have strong opinions about the war and the way it should be fought and who are the bad guys (thanks in no small part to their media). Putin is hampered by no such worries.

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