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01-02-2013, 01:52 PM
RE: Saddest part in a movie?
(01-02-2013 01:20 PM)Nappa Wrote:  
(01-02-2013 01:09 PM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  Hah, that's an interesting point I haven't ever thought about. Why are all ghosts fairly recent? Wouldn't it be cool to see a cro-magnon ghost? Yeah, I live in the wrong part of the world, but I would think that caveman ghost sightings would be world news if they were happening.

Would a caveman ghost be wearing clothing? I mean, when people see ghosts they're always dressed in something, almost as if their clothing died with them and they're somehow clad in the spirit of their dead wardrobe. Would cavemen dress their ghosts?

Would caveman poltergeists rattle chains that they lacked the technology to make when they lived?

Heck, forget cavemen, I haven't ever even heard of Sumerian ghosts or Roman ghosts or Babylonian ghosts or Aztec ghosts or any other ancient civilization.

Do ghosts have expiration dates? No pun intended, since they're already "expired". Maybe ghosts have a short half-life?
Oh don't worry, the ancients had 'ghosts', in fact if you've ever read Shakespeare you'll meet Julius Ceasar's apparition. Plus the Greeks did believe in Hades which was a 'ghost like' afterworld. In the Odyssey, Odysseus actually meets Achilles in hades which would be the equivalent to meeting a ghost since he was already dead and everything. So yes, the ancients did have 'ghosts' we just don't hear about them today because they're outdated and not of our close relatives for charlatans to make money off of Wink

REALLY SHOULD BE CALLED THE POE MASTER RIGHT NOW! It would SO FIT!

I suppose Purgatory was stolen from the greek afterlife of Hades, just like Angels were originally a Roman Pagan thing if I recall correctly. Purgatory being the equivalent of the 'ghost world' as they are not in heaven or hell. As for exorcisms, they're really nothing new, as much as I hate to quote the bible, there is the story of Jesus exorcising the demons from the man into the pigs.
Yes, I know the ancients had their own ghost stories. I was talking about meeting an ancient ghost today. Seems they don't stick around very long. Or more accurately, it seems the imaginations of people who claim to see ghosts are not sufficiently imaginative to come up with ancient ghosts.

Sorry for the derailment. Let's see if I can get it somewhat back on track with a brilliant segue:

I thought the movie Ghost was fairly sad, but I don't recall crying over it. Maybe if they had found an actor more emotive than Patrick Swayze it would have worked better.

Oh, hey, What Dreams May Come - there's a ghost story that made me cry.

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01-02-2013, 02:02 PM
RE: Saddest part in a movie?
Artax dying in the swamp of sadness, hands down.

But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.

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01-02-2013, 02:37 PM
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01-02-2013, 03:01 PM (This post was last modified: 01-02-2013 03:12 PM by Chaos.)
RE: Saddest part in a movie?
OK, maybe these:

The Elephant Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqg7Ow4SNk8

Schindler's List
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjy8Z1hK2wY

The Pianist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScSFGu4IVto

Empire of the Sun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19UROAIbtlw

Au Revoir, Les Enfants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4zo_uHOagA

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01-02-2013, 03:35 PM
RE: Saddest part in a movie?
(01-02-2013 03:01 PM)Chaos Wrote:  OK, maybe these:

The Elephant Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqg7Ow4SNk8

Schindler's List
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjy8Z1hK2wY

The Pianist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScSFGu4IVto

Empire of the Sun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19UROAIbtlw

Au Revoir, Les Enfants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4zo_uHOagA
Three of those movies portray the nazi's as the bad guys, this is exactly what I am talking about, DRAMATIZING certain events over others. And if you allow yourselves to feel more pity for a certain group over another! Then you become biased in your judgment of the suffering of others!

The thing is, that myths of the holocaust, and I DO use the word Myths because even in ACCEPTED History they are considered false. Such things being, Human skins being turned into wallets and lampshades, soap made from human fat, lice filled hair sold as wigs, and some more of the rather bloody torture, is STILL being taught in schools as historical FACT despite it being refuted by the general historical community! And what purpose does that serve besides the point of DRAMATIZING the event? I can think of no other event that we were taught more of in school past the 6th grade besides the Holocaust, before 6th grade we were indoctrinated to believe our government was thee best, and we were taught mostly in our nations good guy history.

I SHALL watch Schindler's List today, not now, but I will watch it. You have my word. And when I am done I may write a historical review.

I'm not saying that the holocaust didn't happen, not here at least, because frankly that's not the purpose of this thread. But I have GOT to point this out! The movie industry is clearly dramatizing certain events over others. I mean take The Passion Of The Christ for example, that movie probably made me a Catholic at LEAST a year longer.
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01-02-2013, 03:47 PM
RE: Saddest part in a movie?
(01-02-2013 03:35 PM)Nappa Wrote:  Three of those movies portray the nazi's as the bad guys, this is exactly what I am talking about, DRAMATIZING certain events over others. And if you allow yourselves to feel more pity for a certain group over another! Then you become biased in your judgment of the suffering of others!

The thing is, that myths of the holocaust, and I DO use the word Myths because even in ACCEPTED History they are considered false. Such things being, Human skins being turned into wallets and lampshades, soap made from human fat, lice filled hair sold as wigs, and some more of the rather bloody torture, is STILL being taught in schools as historical FACT despite it being refuted by the general historical community! And what purpose does that serve besides the point of DRAMATIZING the event? I can think of no other event that we were taught more of in school past the 6th grade besides the Holocaust, before 6th grade we were indoctrinated to believe our government was thee best, and we were taught mostly in our nations good guy history.

I SHALL watch Schindler's List today, not now, but I will watch it. You have my word. And when I am done I may write a historical review.

I'm not saying that the holocaust didn't happen, not here at least, because frankly that's not the purpose of this thread. But I have GOT to point this out! The movie industry is clearly dramatizing certain events over others. I mean take The Passion Of The Christ for example, that movie probably made me a Catholic at LEAST a year longer.

I liked these movies and scenes mainly for being dramatic and because the actors played really good, not for the idea or purpose (if there was any) behind them.
I have nothing against germans or jews. And I always hated history.

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01-02-2013, 04:36 PM
RE: Saddest part in a movie?
(01-02-2013 03:47 PM)Chaos Wrote:  I liked these movies and scenes mainly for being dramatic and because the actors played really good, not for the idea or purpose (if there was any) behind them.
I have nothing against germans or jews. And I always hated history.
Well written history is about as good to me as a bed time story. I much prefer archeology and scientific history of the world, because it's far easier to discern between truth and fiction.

Anyways I'm back, I will try to watch Schindler's List now. Note the word try.
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01-02-2013, 04:44 PM (This post was last modified: 01-02-2013 04:52 PM by Chaos.)
RE: Saddest part in a movie?
Another scene I thought was sad, was from the Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, when the old man was walking in the desert and stopped near precipice, then woke up in a crowded place begging for money. Couldn't find that scene on Youtube.

Also these:

The Little Prince
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOA7CcVOFIs

Cast Away
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHtgKIFoQfE

Pan's Labyrinth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoN56mHkSJw

Malena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKDuqODgKIw

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07-02-2013, 05:05 AM (This post was last modified: 07-02-2013 05:10 AM by Misanthropik.)
RE: Saddest part in a movie?
I'm not much of a feely guy. When I was about 12, "Forrest Gump" made me cry. At the end when he sends his son off to school on the bus and then he sits down to wait for him; then the feather that he collected at the begining of the movie starts to float away - I lost my shit. I just started bawling like a friggin' baby because of that damn feather.

*SPOILERS*

More recently, "End Of Watch" made me tear up. After the whole movie builds these two guys up as the best of friends; they end up in a dark alley with backup somewhere on the way and Jake Gyllenhaal takes a bullet to the chest. Then Michael Pena holds him while they both start crying. When he said "It's ok. It's ok to do it now" I very, very nearly lost it. I didn't cry, but jesus titty-fuck I was damn close. I guess it felt especially personal because I wanna be a cop. Weeping

Edit: OH! And the end of "Buried". It wasn't very sad (for me, anyway), but it was emotionally intense. I watched it with a few girlfriends and my sister, and they were ALL bawling their eyes out. The whole room was sniffles and tears. lol

It's WAY better if you see the whole movie (and if you haven't, don't watch the clip - go watch the movie to get the whole experience), but this is it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEL0ecz4yiM

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07-02-2013, 06:42 AM
RE: Saddest part in a movie?
The end of "Grave for the Fireflies"... oh god, I cried for some time after watching that. It is the biggest emotional response I have had from any film.

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