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16-10-2014, 06:52 AM
Sausage making OP/ED.......
RationalPoet.......Making the sausage, OP/ED......I love my well intended friends on the left regarding equality on social issues, but I do get pissed off when they demand or even suggest we don't rock the boat because we might upset someone. The difference between the oppressors and mere blasphemy is that one is willing to use laws and violence, while the other is merely saying "bullshit" or "stop doing that you are being a dick".

I think far too much of the sensitive left, which IS well intended, gets angry at the wrong people instead of getting angry at the right people. The blasphemers, like me are not lost on the concept of context. We do treat individuals as such.

To call out oppressors is not lumping an entire group. It is a matter of a big enough minority holding the majority hostage. You do not free a society by allowing those few to hold that majority hostage.

Sam Harris and Salman Rushdie ARE NOT lumping the likes of Malala A MUSLIM in with ISIS. They are NOT lumping the likes of Congressman Keith Ellison in with ISIS. They are saying there is a minority in control that are holding far too much of that region back. Get angry at the oppressors, not the people standing up to the oppressors.

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16-10-2014, 08:47 AM
RE: Sausage making OP/ED.......
(16-10-2014 06:52 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  RationalPoet.......Making the sausage, OP/ED......I love my well intended friends on the left regarding equality on social issues, but I do get pissed off when they demand or even suggest we don't rock the boat because we might upset someone. The difference between the oppressors and mere blasphemy is that one is willing to use laws and violence, while the other is merely saying "bullshit" or "stop doing that you are being a dick".

I think far too much of the sensitive left, which IS well intended, gets angry at the wrong people instead of getting angry at the right people. The blasphemers, like me are not lost on the concept of context. We do treat individuals as such.

To call out oppressors is not lumping an entire group. It is a matter of a big enough minority holding the majority hostage. You do not free a society by allowing those few to hold that majority hostage.

Sam Harris and Salman Rushdie ARE NOT lumping the likes of Malala A MUSLIM in with ISIS. They are NOT lumping the likes of Congressman Keith Ellison in with ISIS. They are saying there is a minority in control that are holding far too much of that region back. Get angry at the oppressors, not the people standing up to the oppressors.

There aren't nearly enough standing up to the oppressors. Where is the voice of the moderates?

If most Muslims are moderate, they should be able to drown out the crazies. Same for Christians.

I can't hear them.

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16-10-2014, 02:21 PM
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(16-10-2014 08:47 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(16-10-2014 06:52 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  RationalPoet.......Making the sausage, OP/ED......I love my well intended friends on the left regarding equality on social issues, but I do get pissed off when they demand or even suggest we don't rock the boat because we might upset someone. The difference between the oppressors and mere blasphemy is that one is willing to use laws and violence, while the other is merely saying "bullshit" or "stop doing that you are being a dick".

I think far too much of the sensitive left, which IS well intended, gets angry at the wrong people instead of getting angry at the right people. The blasphemers, like me are not lost on the concept of context. We do treat individuals as such.

To call out oppressors is not lumping an entire group. It is a matter of a big enough minority holding the majority hostage. You do not free a society by allowing those few to hold that majority hostage.

Sam Harris and Salman Rushdie ARE NOT lumping the likes of Malala A MUSLIM in with ISIS. They are NOT lumping the likes of Congressman Keith Ellison in with ISIS. They are saying there is a minority in control that are holding far too much of that region back. Get angry at the oppressors, not the people standing up to the oppressors.

There aren't nearly enough standing up to the oppressors. Where is the voice of the moderates?

If most Muslims are moderate, they should be able to drown out the crazies. Same for Christians.

I can't hear them.

Holy crap you don't look around the net enough.

Some atheists even today say "what is the use" and I have spent almost everyday online for the past 13 years since 2001 and I can tell you just with the atheist voice it has exploded.

https://www.facebook.com/exmna

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Syrian-At...1530386710

http://www.christianpost.com/news/muslim...ip-123360/


http://www.loveforallhatredfornone.org/m...n-britain/

http://mpvusa.org/mpv-principles/?gclid=...oC2Cvw_wcB

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29...68460.html

That is just a few.

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16-10-2014, 03:34 PM
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(16-10-2014 02:21 PM)Brian37 Wrote:  
(16-10-2014 08:47 AM)Chas Wrote:  There aren't nearly enough standing up to the oppressors. Where is the voice of the moderates?

If most Muslims are moderate, they should be able to drown out the crazies. Same for Christians.

I can't hear them.

Holy crap you don't look around the net enough.

Some atheists even today say "what is the use" and I have spent almost everyday online for the past 13 years since 2001 and I can tell you just with the atheist voice it has exploded.

https://www.facebook.com/exmna

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Syrian-At...1530386710

http://www.christianpost.com/news/muslim...ip-123360/


http://www.loveforallhatredfornone.org/m...n-britain/

http://mpvusa.org/mpv-principles/?gclid=...oC2Cvw_wcB

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29...68460.html

That is just a few.

Ex-Muslims and atheists are not moderate Muslims. Facepalm

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17-10-2014, 12:48 AM
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That says something right there though doesn't it.

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17-10-2014, 01:45 AM
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You said sausage. I don't like this thread it makes me miss someone. Sad

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