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18-12-2015, 10:04 PM
RE: Schools in Augusta, VA close down because morons.
(18-12-2015 09:06 PM)Black Eagle Wrote:  
(18-12-2015 06:00 PM)KUSA Wrote:  No. It is part of their culture to say death to America and the koran justifies it.

I have a Koran sitting on my desk right beside my computer. I want you to tell me what fucking verse in the Koran justifies saying "death to America." I'm waiting, but I'm betting you don't know one goddamned thing the Koran says.

He didn't say that. He said the Koran supports it.

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18-12-2015, 10:06 PM
RE: Schools in Augusta, VA close down because morons.
(18-12-2015 09:15 PM)Gatheist Wrote:  
(18-12-2015 06:11 PM)Chas Wrote:  So what? Consider


Since no one knows what it says, it can have no effect.


Yes, since no one knows what it says, it can have no effect.


It wouldn't matter, since no one knows what it says. Drinking Beverage

So you have no problem with students writing out the Lord's Prayer in Latin for a history class, right?

BTW... what if they put the text through Google translate?

No problem at all, but it would make more sense in a Latin class.
In fact, my Latin teacher used The Lord's Prayer in Latin to illustrate differences between ancient and medieval Latin.

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18-12-2015, 11:02 PM
Schools in Augusta, VA close down because morons.
(18-12-2015 09:06 PM)Black Eagle Wrote:  
(18-12-2015 06:00 PM)KUSA Wrote:  No. It is part of their culture to say death to America and the koran justifies it.

I have a Koran sitting on my desk right beside my computer. I want you to tell me what fucking verse in the Koran justifies saying "death to America." I'm waiting, but I'm betting you don't know one goddamned thing the Koran says.

I'm sure you have heard about Google right. Should I google it for you? It is so easy to find this shit.
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18-12-2015, 11:14 PM
RE: Schools in Augusta, VA close down because morons.
(18-12-2015 11:02 PM)KUSA Wrote:  
(18-12-2015 09:06 PM)Black Eagle Wrote:  I have a Koran sitting on my desk right beside my computer. I want you to tell me what fucking verse in the Koran justifies saying "death to America." I'm waiting, but I'm betting you don't know one goddamned thing the Koran says.

I'm sure you have heard about Google right. Should I google it for you? It is so easy to find this shit.

Oh come on. Don't threaten a Google search, that's weaksause.

If it's so fucking easy, then just cite chapter and verse.

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19-12-2015, 01:58 AM
RE: Schools in Augusta, VA close down because morons.
(18-12-2015 05:09 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  الموت لأمريكا.

الموت للإسلام.

Both look like random scribbles to me. Bet the fundie parents wouldn't have objected to the latter.

That reminds me.

During the gay pride parade in London last spring this flag was spotted by a CNN reporter who tweeted that it was an ISIS flag and everyone was all shocked and upset......until.....on closer inspection Consider

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Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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19-12-2015, 05:04 AM
RE: Schools in Augusta, VA close down because morons.
(18-12-2015 11:02 PM)KUSA Wrote:  
(18-12-2015 09:06 PM)Black Eagle Wrote:  I have a Koran sitting on my desk right beside my computer. I want you to tell me what fucking verse in the Koran justifies saying "death to America." I'm waiting, but I'm betting you don't know one goddamned thing the Koran says.

I'm sure you have heard about Google right. Should I google it for you? It is so easy to find this shit.

I did a google search.

Perhaps it could be better stated as "death to 99.1% of America". (.9% of Americans are Muslim, they can be spared)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_t...ted_States

Here's some verses about how to deal with non-Muslims.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/...olence.htm
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19-12-2015, 06:41 AM
Schools in Augusta, VA close down because morons.
(18-12-2015 11:14 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(18-12-2015 11:02 PM)KUSA Wrote:  I'm sure you have heard about Google right. Should I google it for you? It is so easy to find this shit.

Oh come on. Don't threaten a Google search, that's weaksause.

If it's so fucking easy, then just cite chapter and verse.

KORAN commands to kill infidels:

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8

You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71

Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65

It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67

Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28

Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.

Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41

O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73

Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111

Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....

As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15

Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60

Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14

When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.

Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5

Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25

Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29

Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51

Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)

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KORAN promises of houris in heaven:

Single-minded slaves of Allah... will be honored in the Gardens of delight, on couches facing one another; A cup from a gushing spring is brought round for them, white, delicious to the drinkers, wherein there is no headache nor are they made mad thereby. And with them are those of modest gaze, with lovely eyes, pure as they were hidden eggs. - Surah 37:40-49

Lo, for those who ward off evil is a happy journey's end, Gardens of Eden, whereof the gates are opened for the, wherein, reclining, they call for plenteous fruit and cool drink therein. And with them are those of modest gaze, companions. This it is that ye are promised for the Day of Reckoning. - 38:50-54

Lo! Those who kept their duty will be in a place secure, amid gardens and water-springs, attired in silk and silk embroidery, facing one another.... And we shall wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes. They call therein for every fruit in safety. They taste not death therein, save the first death. And He hath saved them from the doom of hell, a bounty from thy Lord. That is the supreme triumph. - 44:51-57

Lo! Those who kept their duty dwell in gardens and delight... reclining on ranged couches. And we wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes... and we provide them with fruit and meat such as they desire.... - 52:17-22

...Reclining upon couches lined with silk brocade, the fruit of both the gardens near to hand.... Therein are those of modest gaze, whom neither man nor jinni will have touched before them.... - 55:54-56

Those are they who will be brought nigh, in gardens of delight... reclining therein face to face. There wait on them immortal youths... and fair ones with wide, lovely eyes, like unto hidden pearls, reward for what they used to do.... Lo! We have created them a creation, and made them virgins, lovers, friends. - 56:11-37
(Different translation) Companions with beautiful, big and lustrous eyes... virgin-pure and undefiled.

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Koran "sharia" punishments:

As for the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allah. - Surah 5:38
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19-12-2015, 10:25 AM
RE: Schools in Augusta, VA close down because morons.
The "declaration" is one of the first things all Arabic-speakers learn to write. It's fundamental to understanding Arabic script and language. If it was being taught as truth, or the students were being told by the teacher that the phrase was something they should all repeat as a group exercise (where there's no ability to bow out gracefully for objectors) then I would have an issue with it. And if you think I'm an apologist for any religion, then you've never read a word I've written!

America needs more cultural understanding. If our classrooms can't even teach something so basic as "this is the first thing that almost 2 billion people on earth learn to write", then we're in Big Trouble™.

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19-12-2015, 11:20 AM
RE: Schools in Augusta, VA close down because morons.
(18-12-2015 09:15 PM)Gatheist Wrote:  So you have no problem with students writing out the Lord's Prayer in Latin for a history class, right?

Of course not. Why would I?

(18-12-2015 09:15 PM)Gatheist Wrote:  BTW... what if they put the text through Google translate?

Or more likely they just googled shahada. These backwoods mouthbreathers ain't never heard Google translate.

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19-12-2015, 11:44 AM
RE: Schools in Augusta, VA close down because morons.
(19-12-2015 01:58 AM)dancefortwo Wrote:  During the gay pride parade in London last spring this flag was spotted by a CNN reporter who tweeted that it was an ISIS flag and everyone was all shocked and upset......until.....on closer inspection Consider

I been looking at those butt plugs and dildos for months now. They gotta be spelling something. I get the last part as "Jill" but I'll be damned if I can make sense of the rest of it.

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