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11-10-2013, 09:16 PM
RE: Science lesson for today.
(10-10-2013 11:34 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(10-10-2013 06:26 PM)BryanS Wrote:  You're the moron. You are confusing power with energy. A source of energy that continues as long as the sun burns is no reasonable definition of finite. The human race will cease to exist long before we run out of wind.

Your stupidity is hard for me to bare. Oil(hydrocarbons) are a source of energy that continues as long as the sun burns. Like hydrocarbons, wind energy is finite in the amount you are able to harvest at any given moment in time. Yes you can theoretically meet the energy needs of the entire world with wind, but you need 400 windmills covering each and every square mile of the globe. And no you can't meet the energy needs of the entire world with wind without cause serious climatic damage.

Nope Blowjob. Hydrocarbons are buried in the Earth, and continue until they're used up. The sun has nothing to do with how long they will last. No one has proposed the energy needs of the entire Earth be met by wind. Wave energy will be harnessed long before that happens. Nice strawmen though. You get about an F+ for that one.
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11-10-2013, 09:22 PM
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I'm just saying turbines wouldn't necessarily cool the air.
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11-10-2013, 09:27 PM
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(11-10-2013 09:16 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Nope Blowjob. Hydrocarbons are buried in the Earth, and continue until they're used up. The sun has nothing to do with how long they will last. No one has proposed the energy needs of the entire Earth be met by wind. Wave energy will be harnessed long before that happens. Nice strawmen though. You get about an F+ for that one.
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Hey SUCKy BALLS

I was wondering when your sorry ass would show itself in this thread. Your way too much of a dumbass to realize this, but the energy of wind and the energy of hydrocarbons actually have something in common. They both come from the sun. Now BryanS claimed that wind energy was infinite because it comes from the sun. If that is true then energy that comes from hydrocarbons is also infinite because it also comes from the sun. Obviously both sources are finite.
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11-10-2013, 09:30 PM (This post was last modified: 11-10-2013 09:34 PM by Deek.)
RE: Science lesson for today.
Your stupidity is hard to bear maybe? Insult fail. I'm smelling a troll

Edit: Anyways the quote was mined. I would recommend rereading it. What he says is speculation. He is NOT claiming it as fact
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11-10-2013, 09:36 PM (This post was last modified: 11-10-2013 09:52 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Science lesson for today.
(11-10-2013 09:27 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(11-10-2013 09:16 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Nope Blowjob. Hydrocarbons are buried in the Earth, and continue until they're used up. The sun has nothing to do with how long they will last. No one has proposed the energy needs of the entire Earth be met by wind. Wave energy will be harnessed long before that happens. Nice strawmen though. You get about an F+ for that one.
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Hey SUCKy BALLS

I was wondering when your sorry ass would show itself in this thread. Your way too much of a dumbass to realize this, but the energy of wind and the energy of hydrocarbons actually have something in common. They both come from the sun. Now BryanS claimed that wind energy was infinite because it comes from the sun. If that is true then energy that comes from hydrocarbons is also infinite because it also comes from the sun. Obviously both sources are finite.

No dumbass. Energy is released from hydrocarbons as chemical energy. The sun has nothing to do with it. Repeating your nonsense just make you looks more like the idiot you are. Hydrocarbons are formed ...oh what's the use. http://www.wou.edu/las/physci/GS361/Ener..._Fuels.htm

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11-10-2013, 09:38 PM
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Hydrocarbons are infinite as they are from the sun??? A tad simplistic logic as they take millennia to form and wind production is immediate. However if we slowed our consumption of hydrocarbons to the rate of production ( a drastic reduction) we might consider them infinite for as long as sun and earth and animals survive.
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11-10-2013, 09:40 PM
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Oil comes from animals which are fed by plants which are fed by the sun. A circuitous but real relation.
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11-10-2013, 09:52 PM
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(11-10-2013 09:22 PM)sandman Wrote:  I'm just saying turbines wouldn't necessarily cool the air.

Well observation seems to validate your position.

If we took away the transfer of heat from one local to another aspect of the problem, I suspect you are still correct. I believe where BryanS makes an error in his thinking is by claiming that the wind turbine is a heat engine and must therefore lose heat or violate the laws of thermodynamics. The wind turbine isn't a heat engine. It is being moved by a heat engine which itself loses heat to make kinetic energy. That heat engine could be the wind or it could be a steam engine. Doesn't really matter. The energy captured by turbines is kinetic....and as you rightly point out some of that kinetic energy will be converted back into heat.

In short the temperature of the air decreases by going into motion in the first place and not by moving across a turbine.
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11-10-2013, 09:56 PM
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(11-10-2013 09:40 PM)sandman Wrote:  Oil comes from animals which are fed by plants which are fed by the sun. A circuitous but real relation.

The subject in question is present day energy production.
Oil is a fossil fuel, and called so for a reason.
It WAS formed from plants, (not just animals). The question is not how it was formed, but the PRESENT day use and energy release. None of which has anything to do with the sun.
http://www.livescience.com/9404-mysterio...y-oil.html

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11-10-2013, 09:57 PM
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(11-10-2013 09:36 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  No dumbass. Energy is released from hydrocarbons as chemical energy. The sun has nothing to do with it. Repeating your nonsense just make you looks more like the idiot you are. Hydrocarbons are formed ...oh what's the use. http://www.wou.edu/las/physci/GS361/Ener..._Fuels.htm

You really should change your name to "Scarecrow" because obviously you haven't got a brain. Before the energy of hydrocarbons was in chemical form, it was in the form of sunlight. Plants use photosynthesis to convert sunlight into chemical energy. This is grade school level stuff for God's sake. Were you homeschooled by a lazy mom?
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