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02-07-2014, 02:54 AM
RE: Science vs Morality
(01-07-2014 05:32 PM)Mozart Link Wrote:  
(01-07-2014 05:20 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Unsubstantiated assertion is not science.
It may be a scientific fact that some things asserted without evidence are false, but not everything. My argument could very well be true according to science. Something being asserted without evidence should neither be believed nor disbelieved. Therefore, since it's something neither proven true or false by science, you would have the right to decide to either live by my argument or live by your personal morals. If science did somehow prove my argument false, then this would be the only thing to not give you the right to live by my argument.

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02-07-2014, 03:07 AM
RE: Science vs Morality
(02-07-2014 12:24 AM)Mozart Link Wrote:  It's also a scientific fact that people who have all the pleasure in the world with a sense of superiority are better people than those who are depressed and humble. If you have less pleasure, that makes you less of a person according to science because who you are is your brain and all of its processes and also the fact that greater is "better" when it comes to science. If, for example, you have a computer that has greater RAM and such than others' computers, then your computer would be better than their computers. Therefore, if you have a mind that has greater activity and capabilities, that makes you a better person. But as for someone who has greater intelligence than someone who has greater pleasure, the scientific fact is that pleasure is the greatest thing above any function in the brain because our personal experience of this emotion obviously says so (it is a natural conclusion that we make because without pleasure, then you would obviously be completely dead inside and no one would ever want that). You would obviously sacrifice your intelligence and all other areas of your brain if it meant not losing all of your pleasure. And for you to state otherwise would obviously mean you have no comprehension whatsoever of what it would feel like to lose all of your pleasure.

Therefore, since pleasure is the greatest function of the brain, if you have less pleasure, that makes you less of a person regardless of how much activity or capabilities you have in other parts of your brain.


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02-07-2014, 03:22 AM
RE: Science vs Morality
The stuupid is trong in this one.

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02-07-2014, 04:33 AM
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It's people like this that make me thank God every day that I'm not a retarded idiot like them.

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02-07-2014, 06:34 AM
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I can't respond to this post intelligently. I have too much pleasure going in right now.

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02-07-2014, 06:43 AM
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Yet further proof that it's part of God's plan for me to be aware of all the stupidest people out there...

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02-07-2014, 10:01 AM
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As for the question that anyone here might ask such as that losing all pleasure in life would be horrific. Losing all intelligence would be horrific. So what is my point? My point is that losing all pleasure in life would be MUCH more horrific than losing all parts of your brain combined. Since losing pleasure is the worst thing, then that obviously means this is the best part of the brain and for you to lose that would indeed make you an "inferior" person.
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02-07-2014, 10:07 AM
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To lose your entire brain is to be dead. Is it worth living to live without physical pleasure? Some say it is. Some say it isn't. That's a personal choice. Being unable to feel pleasure does not make a person inferior philosophically which is the only way we can speak of one person being inferior or superior to another.
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02-07-2014, 10:26 AM
RE: Science vs Morality
(01-07-2014 07:22 PM)Mozart Link Wrote:  They may benefit survival, but based on my argument, they are false and irrational when it comes to saying a certain person's attitude or actions are wrong.
You are confusing science with reasoning. Arguments are not science. When science is used to define morality, which is where it comes from if you don't base it in religion, then saying a person's attitudes or actions are wrong is perfectly rational.

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02-07-2014, 10:28 AM
RE: Science vs Morality
(01-07-2014 05:14 PM)Mozart Link Wrote:  According to science, morals are false and irrational.

You know nothing of science. Nothing.

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