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20-07-2012, 08:08 PM
Secular Zen
I am very interested in any resources or recommendations from people who practice secular Zazen. I know, for language restrictions, some information is very difficult to explain given Zen's nature. But anything that you think will help would be very beneficial for me. I am really curious about it and am finding it very interesting. Thanks!

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20-07-2012, 08:14 PM
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(20-07-2012 08:08 PM)PeacefulSkeptic Wrote:  I am very interested in any resources or recommendations from people who practice secular Zazen. I know, for language restrictions, some information is very difficult to explain given Zen's nature. But anything that you think will help would be very beneficial for me. I am really curious about it and am finding it very interesting. Thanks!

-Bob
There is non-secular Zen?

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20-07-2012, 08:17 PM
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(20-07-2012 08:14 PM)Chas Wrote:  There is non-secular Zen?
Yes.
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20-07-2012, 08:27 PM
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Explanation of secular Zen:

http://www.rubinghscience.org/zen/zen1.html

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20-07-2012, 08:50 PM
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(20-07-2012 08:27 PM)Dom Wrote:  Explanation of secular Zen:

http://www.rubinghscience.org/zen/zen1.html
My comment resulted from a brain fart; I was thinking Tao, not Zen. Blush

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20-07-2012, 09:55 PM
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Hahaha. It happens a lot in philosophy. Tongue
(20-07-2012 08:50 PM)Chas Wrote:  My comment resulted from a brain fart; I was thinking Tao, not Zen. Blush
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21-07-2012, 11:36 AM
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Do you know if this person has any plans on completing this rough draft? Thanks for the link. I found it interesting.
(20-07-2012 08:27 PM)Dom Wrote:  Explanation of secular Zen:

http://www.rubinghscience.org/zen/zen1.html
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21-07-2012, 12:30 PM
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(21-07-2012 11:36 AM)PeacefulSkeptic Wrote:  Do you know if this person has any plans on completing this rough draft? Thanks for the link. I found it interesting.
(20-07-2012 08:27 PM)Dom Wrote:  Explanation of secular Zen:

http://www.rubinghscience.org/zen/zen1.html


N idea. But I searched for "non religious Zen" and came up with tons of interesting things - a lot of them regional. You may try that search followed by your location and see if there are any local places for you to check out.

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21-07-2012, 04:09 PM
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I found this one, and it just happens to be right down the street from my university: http://www.missourizencenter.org/ .
(21-07-2012 12:30 PM)Dom Wrote:  You may try that search followed by your location and see if there are any local places for you to check out.
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22-07-2012, 12:34 PM
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Zazen is intrinsically secular. Here's the take on it from a brilliant Jew who spent 5 years in a Zen Buddhist monastery:

“Well, for one thing, in the tradition of Zen that I’ve practiced, there is no prayerful worship and there is no affirmation of a deity. So theologically there is no challenge to any Jewish belief.”

Last paragraph of that interview is one of the best takeways I've ever read.

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