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23-08-2013, 12:43 PM
Selling Out?
The Difference between trying a new sound and selling out? Nobody thinks the Beatles sold out. But Linkin Park or The Black Eyed Peas?
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23-08-2013, 12:59 PM
RE: Selling Out?
How are you defining "selling out"?

I define it as creating a product (or handing the process of creation over to others) that would result in the greatest profit maximization for that person, rather than creating a product that appeals to the producer and (already established?) consumers.
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23-08-2013, 01:06 PM
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They sold out, but the album itself wasn't too shit, what came after is a different story.

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23-08-2013, 01:13 PM
RE: Selling Out?
Lykin Park never had the opportunity to sell out. They where a 'made band' from day one.

The Beatles evolved... Their music got LESS main stream, LESS accessible, MORE psychedelic, MORE Eastern.

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23-08-2013, 01:15 PM
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As I said when already established musician(s) try for a new look/sound weather it's to branch into another genre or to reach a wider audience why are some called "sell outs" while others are applauded.
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23-08-2013, 01:17 PM
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(23-08-2013 01:06 PM)ELK12695 Wrote:  



They sold out, but the album itself wasn't too shit, what came after is a different story.

I hate you. This album is what turned me on to metal. I totally agree, of course. But can we just agree that this is the "best sounding" (productionwise) album they put out?

It was heavy as fuck.....

But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.

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23-08-2013, 01:30 PM
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(23-08-2013 01:17 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  
(23-08-2013 01:06 PM)ELK12695 Wrote:  



They sold out, but the album itself wasn't too shit, what came after is a different story.

I hate you. This album is what turned me on to metal. I totally agree, of course. But can we just agree that this is the "best sounding" (productionwise) album they put out?

It was heavy as fuck.....

Well, maybe, but I think Puppets, just like Peace Sells and Regin In Blood had superior mixes to almost anything that happened later, 1986 was a year of power. I don't hate the Black Album. I hate Load either, but both albums were filled with forgettable songs. If I were at a Metallica gig, I would pick Dyers Eve over Enter Sandman any day, and I do have a grudge against Nothing Else Matters, that song is horribly overrated.

And dude, this what I call heavy as fuck:



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23-08-2013, 01:43 PM
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(23-08-2013 01:15 PM)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:  As I said when already established musician(s) try for a new look/sound weather it's to branch into another genre or to reach a wider audience why are some called "sell outs" while others are applauded.

It's not about the 'newness' it's about the direction...more mainstream, less experimental, more produced = sellout

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23-08-2013, 01:43 PM
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(23-08-2013 01:30 PM)ELK12695 Wrote:  I (don't) hate Load either, but both albums were filled with forgettable songs.

Load was a load of shit, the black album brought metal into the lap of america, and I can still sing along with every guitar solo, as forgettable as it is. Tongue

(23-08-2013 01:30 PM)ELK12695 Wrote:  Puppets, just like Peace Sells and Regin In Blood had superior mixes to almost anything that happened later

That's debatable, but I would agree that they are better albums musically.

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23-08-2013, 01:53 PM
RE: Selling Out?
(23-08-2013 01:43 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  
(23-08-2013 01:30 PM)ELK12695 Wrote:  I (don't) hate Load either, but both albums were filled with forgettable songs.

Load was a load of shit, the black album brought metal into the lap of america, and I can still sing along with every guitar solo, as forgettable as it is. Tongue

(23-08-2013 01:30 PM)ELK12695 Wrote:  Puppets, just like Peace Sells and Regin In Blood had superior mixes to almost anything that happened later

That's debatable, but I would agree that they are better albums musically.

And you now win an award for being capable of getting in and out of an argument on this website without creating a feud.




I think the reason why I don't listen to the black album that much is because I don't feel the same urge to listen to it anymore. I liked it as a kid, but I just don't get the same feeling anymore.

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