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28-11-2013, 06:20 PM
RE: Sense of "self".
(28-11-2013 02:17 PM)Dom Wrote:  I am the whole company, really, but my self is the CEO.

Like some sorta figurehead. Big Grin

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28-11-2013, 06:23 PM
RE: Sense of "self".
(28-11-2013 01:07 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Analysis of self i.e. self-awareness has been a process of stripping away the layers.

Until there is nothing left. Thumbsup

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28-11-2013, 06:38 PM
RE: Sense of "self".
(28-11-2013 06:20 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(28-11-2013 02:17 PM)Dom Wrote:  I am the whole company, really, but my self is the CEO.

Like some sorta figurehead. Big Grin

Yes and no. Once it's on my desk, I do have to make the decisions. It only ends up on my desk though if the company isn't sure what to do with the issue. So I don't really get to see a whole lot of stuff. Not compared to what the company does.

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28-11-2013, 07:59 PM
RE: Sense of "self".
(28-11-2013 06:38 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(28-11-2013 06:20 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Like some sorta figurehead. Big Grin

Yes and no. Once it's on my desk, I do have to make the decisions. It only ends up on my desk though if the company isn't sure what to do with the issue. So I don't really get to see a whole lot of stuff. Not compared to what the company does.

Like some sorta figurehead.

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28-11-2013, 08:11 PM
RE: Sense of "self".
Ill bite:

I guess I'm the Conductor who never quite realized he was more than a passenger on the fate train, until it was too late to select the better tracks.

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28-11-2013, 08:18 PM (This post was last modified: 28-11-2013 08:23 PM by grizzlysnake.)
RE: Sense of "self".
To describe this voice you speak of. Lets see if I can pin it down. Here we go.

The voice is confident yet cautious and calm, will not haste unless it needs but is capable of reckless abandon.

Now you got me thinking, I suppose I think of the "self" as my internal dialogue and is expressed outwardly through various means.

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28-11-2013, 08:25 PM
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I'm not the passenger, I am the ride.

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28-11-2013, 09:18 PM
RE: Sense of "self".
My self is the definite awareness of everything I absolutely know and the definite awareness of how little I know simultaneously. (That still sounds vague, I can't describe it) Smile

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29-11-2013, 12:41 AM (This post was last modified: 29-11-2013 12:44 AM by Chippy.)
RE: Sense of "self".
(28-11-2013 12:44 PM)bemore Wrote:  We both have a sense of self, why is it so hard to describe to another?

Because you are trying to describe qualia and not everything can be described in terms of something else. Some subjective experiences are fundaments which are used to describe other subjective experiences. Examples are "saltiness" and "redness"; they can't be resolved into anything else. If someone has never experienced "redness" then there exists no way to describe it to them.

The experience of a subject is an experience of a series of qualia. IIRC Husserl argued that subjectivity is always the subjective experience of something, that there is no such thing as subject in the absence of an object, no such thing as experience in the abstract. When you are conscious you are subjectively experiencing something.

For these reasons I think your request is unfulfillable.
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29-11-2013, 09:39 AM
RE: Sense of "self".
(28-11-2013 06:23 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(28-11-2013 01:07 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Analysis of self i.e. self-awareness has been a process of stripping away the layers.

Until there is nothing left. Thumbsup

Yup. That's what, as a child, I thought death was about.

I suspect I'm close to that point.

But enough of this self-ish and self-less thinking.

Good post, bemore. Thanks.

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