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01-01-2014, 09:35 PM
Shame and nakedness
When did humans start to equate not wearing clothes with a sense of shame? And why?
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01-01-2014, 09:49 PM
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I can't be sure, but I think it was right around the time that American tourists started showing up on European nude beaches.

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01-01-2014, 09:50 PM
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Quite early.

God, apple, snake, fig leaf... that kinda thing.

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01-01-2014, 09:50 PM
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After Eve forced Adam to eat that damn apple.

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01-01-2014, 09:54 PM
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Religions equating nudity with lust and lust with sin.
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01-01-2014, 11:44 PM
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Way before Christianity did people start to wrap themselves up in things besides their own fur taking up in this order of priority: Keeping warm > defense against environment > avoiding frequent pregnancy > shame.

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02-01-2014, 12:45 AM
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It's a recurring theme in many religions stemming from a number of factors. The immediately obvious ones are:

- Men have historically been insecure about knowing who their offspring are. Women can be certain but men have to take it on faith as it were. In patriarchal societies this commonly leads to locking the women away for "their own good." Shame over nudity is one obvious aspect of this.

- Bottling up the human sex drive is one of the simplest ways to drive somebody batshit crazy. Start from a very early age with a nudity taboo that keeps the opposite sex at arm's length and simultaneously generates a sense of something illicit yet wonderful. Wrap that in sin and shame, add teenage hormones and voila! you have a recipe for a true believer. That or a serial killer.
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02-01-2014, 04:58 AM
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"A recent University of Florida study concluded that humans started wearing clothes some 170,000 years ago, lining up with the end of the second-to-last ice age... by studying the evolution of lice."
Source: http://gizmodo.com/when-did-humans-start...1299154403

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02-01-2014, 05:25 AM
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I think only some humans equate those two things.
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02-01-2014, 05:47 AM
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Juv, I think it is fairly universal. Even in cultures where very little clothing is expected (eg a loincloth) the clothing that is expected is generally mandatory and shame results from those body regions being exposed.

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