Shame and nakedness
Post Reply
 
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Votes - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
02-01-2014, 06:10 AM
RE: Shame and nakedness
I am usually naked when reading the forum.

Drinking Beverage

Just thought I'd mention that.

Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 4 users Like DLJ's post
02-01-2014, 06:11 AM
RE: Shame and nakedness
I didn't say whether I included myself in "fairly universal".

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Hafnof's post
02-01-2014, 07:10 AM
RE: Shame and nakedness
I feel like (meaning, I haven't a fucking clue, but maybe…) it evolved slowly due to a variety of factors.

1) Perhaps when we began to clothe ourselves from the elements, those parts of our bodies "went away" from the eyes of others for a little while, which resulted in them being looked at as "special". Something only seen under certain conditions.

2) Those parts of our bodies happen to play a significant role in sexuality. With them now being considered "special", their sexual significance was increased, which made them (and the viewing of them) something considered carnal or animalistic.

3) Throw nonsensical beliefs (held on a mass scale) about what is "dirty" and "sinful" into the mix, and slowly, society begins to evolve the view that such parts of our bodies are taboo or forbidden, and if we show them, we're supposed to feel shame.

After all, when we have exposed ourselves in some way, we feel "humiliated", which partly means "to degrade", which basically means to lower ourselves - perhaps to the position of an animal. The Human ego makes us feel that we're superior to the animals who run around without clothing and have sex in the open all the time. We see the dog chewing its ass when company is over and we feel embarrassed on his behalf because we have an ego that he doesn't. We feel that we're superior with our clothed bodies and sense of privacy. To disrobe out in the open is (according to our ego) to "degrade" ourselves. To make ourselves like any other animal. Thus, we feel shame.


Or maybe I'm just talking out of my ass; I don't know. Drinking Beverage

Through profound pain comes profound knowledge.
Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto! Ridi del duol, che t'avvelena il cor!
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Misanthropik's post
02-01-2014, 09:18 AM
RE: Shame and nakedness
That is very different from culture to culture.

Where I am from public parks have nudist ereas.

[Image: RPYH95t.png]
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
02-01-2014, 09:32 AM
RE: Shame and nakedness
(02-01-2014 09:18 AM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  That is very different from culture to culture.

Where I am from public parks have nudist ereas.

Where's that?

This is the signature.

http://www.FromNothingGameStudios.com
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
02-01-2014, 09:54 AM
RE: Shame and nakedness
(02-01-2014 09:32 AM)Skeptic Gamer Wrote:  Where's that?

Germany. Most people here dont have a clue from where this "tradition" of nudism comes from. Alot believe that it originates from the East German communist regime, because they interduced nudist beaches.

In fact the more or less widespread nudism and the cultural acceptance of it originates from a 19th century protestant religious revival.

Religious revivals happened all across the world during the 19th century. Wahabism in Saudi Arabia came into existance aswell as various other religious movement.

But whilest in America the religious revival involved slaughtering native Americans, in Greece establishing a conservative monarchy, in Britain sending missionaries into colonies, in Saudi Arabia inforcing Islamic laws which were even strickter than the actual sharia and on and on and on

The religious protestant revival was some esoteric stuff about "being amongst creation as god has created you", naimly naked.

And some of it crossed the border into the Netherlands and Scandinavia.

[Image: RPYH95t.png]
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
02-01-2014, 10:08 AM
RE: Shame and nakedness
(01-01-2014 09:54 PM)Colourcraze Wrote:  Religions equating nudity with lust and lust with sin.

And I'm going to assume a lot of this stemmed from guys trying to claim a monopoly on their betrothed virgin(s).

I think a lot of the Abrahamic religion's views on sex likely stem from their virgin fetish.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
02-01-2014, 10:43 AM
RE: Shame and nakedness
I'm naked. Right now. And often.


I guess you could call me a nudist, if you were really into labels. Really, I just hate clothes.

ProTip #62: Don't weed the garden nude. Crouching down over that thistle you didn't notice can get ugly. Real ugly.

As for shame, personally I think that emotion is a choice. It may be a struggle to make the choice to not feel ashamed (regardless of the circumstances) but it is never insurmountable.

So many cats, so few good recipes.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Stark Raving's post
02-01-2014, 10:50 AM
RE: Shame and nakedness
(02-01-2014 09:54 AM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  ...
And some of it crossed the border into the Netherlands and Scandinavia.

So you're saying that we wouldn't have had all that Scandy-porn if not for the protestant revival?

Praise the lord!

Bowing

Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 2 users Like DLJ's post
02-01-2014, 10:56 AM
RE: Shame and nakedness
(02-01-2014 10:50 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(02-01-2014 09:54 AM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  ...
And some of it crossed the border into the Netherlands and Scandinavia.

So you're saying that we wouldn't have had all that Scandy-porn if not for the protestant revival?

Praise the lord!

Bowing

Lol I've never seen it but it sounds pretty good

“The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is because vampires are allergic to bullshit.” ― Richard Pryor
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply
Forum Jump: