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08-01-2017, 07:43 AM
RE: Shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport
The "checked baggage" bit is a red herring, really....................

If the guy wants to shoot the place up - he can simply walk in the front door, pull out his gun and start blazing away. Who is going to stop him?

The fact that the gun was transported on the plane really doesn't have anything to do with the story -- it just gives the anti gun people something else to gripe about.

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08-01-2017, 08:06 AM
RE: Shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport
At work.

Not an American.

I think it's sad the fellow couldn't/didn't get the mental help he seems to have needed.

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08-01-2017, 08:12 AM
RE: Shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport
(08-01-2017 08:06 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  At work.

Not an American.

I think it's sad the fellow couldn't/didn't get the mental help he seems to have needed.

Sad

Yes it is... Ronny Raygun gutted what little we had of a mental health system, back in the 80's..... I guess he figured if a nutjob like him could be president, everyone else was pretty much OK.....

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08-01-2017, 08:20 AM
RE: Shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport
At work.

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We had John Howard (Conservative politician and leader of our biggest bunch) do the same here.

Then that fellow went troppo down in Tasmania (Some one who it was descided the could self medicate) and there was a huge hue and cry against guns.

Hug To the folks closer to this new incident.
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08-01-2017, 09:44 AM
RE: Shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport
(07-01-2017 09:29 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 06:48 PM)skyking Wrote:  Newspaper headline; the only baggage checked was his gun. The FBI had a talk with him, determined he was Whack, and yet there is nothing in place to get his gun from him "because of reasons".

That is not entirely true. It may be that the FBI did not have the authority to do so, but they could have gotten off their fat asses and informed BATFE or temporarily taken his firearms as part of an investigation.

What's not true?
The FBI talked to him and found him to be a nutjob in so many words. He kept his guns, and went on to kill 5 people with them. There are no excuses, simply none. This needs fixed.
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08-01-2017, 10:01 AM
RE: Shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport
Gun free zones work so fucking well dont they.

Keep making up bullshit excuses gun worshipers. Keep being scared assholes thinking liberals want to ban all firearms.

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08-01-2017, 10:03 AM
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Where was Celebrity Despot shouting "Bet it's gonna be a Muslim", when most of our mass shooters here are FUCKING BORN HERE.

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08-01-2017, 10:28 AM
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According to the ABC here, Marlin Ritzman, special agent in charge of the FBI's Anchorage office, said Esteban Santiago-Ruiz walked into the office in November and told agents his mind was being controlled by a US intelligence agency. He was turned over to local police who took him to a medical facility for a mental evaluation...

Anchorage Police Chief Chris Tolley said a handgun that was taken from Santiago by police during the evaluation was returned to him early last month...

Santiago was having terroristic thoughts and told the FBI voices were urging him to fight for ISIS...

Officials in Anchorage said the gun was returned because Santiago had not been adjudicated to be mentally ill. (Yeah, obviously not, LOL.)

He was previously accused of trying to strangle his girlfriend in Alaska, but was given a deferred prosecution agreement, and was also investigated for possession of child pornography in 2010/11. He was also (allegedly) registered on MySpace under the Muslim name "Aashiq Hammad" and recorded Islamic religious music on the site, 3 years before he was deployed to Iraq as a US soldier.


So he should've been on the "no fly" listing but wasn't apparently. Why not—considering his obviously delusional/paranoid state of mind?

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08-01-2017, 10:58 AM
RE: Shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport
(08-01-2017 09:44 AM)skyking Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 09:29 PM)Chas Wrote:  That is not entirely true. It may be that the FBI did not have the authority to do so, but they could have gotten off their fat asses and informed BATFE or temporarily taken his firearms as part of an investigation.

What's not true?
The FBI talked to him and found him to be a nutjob in so many words. He kept his guns, and went on to kill 5 people with them. There are no excuses, simply none. This needs fixed.

NRA is a minority org not the totality of all gun owners. Those assholes are holding our nation hostage.

When it is a Terrorist..... MORE GUNS
When it is a mentally ill... MORE GUNS
When it is a work place grudge.... MORE GUNS
When it is a domestic violence.... MORE GUNS
No gun free zones..... MORE GUNS
X military PTSD......MORE GUNS
Kids accidentally kill themselves, others even instructors, MORE GUNS

When it is a Terrorist
"Keep them out of their hands" NRA
Liberals "Ok, lets do that"
NRA, "NO!"

When it is the mentally ill
"Keep em out of their hands" NRA
Liberals, "Ok, lets do that"
NRA, "NO!"

"Keep them out of the reach of children"NRA
Liberals, "Ok, lets do that"
NRA, "NO"

"Abusers with guns are dangerous"
Liberals, "Yep we agree, lets do something"
NRA, "NO!"

"Cops should not be militarized, we need to protect ourselves from gov"
Liberals, "We agree, so lets create a society where they don't work in fear"
NRA "NO! Lets arm them to the teeth".

It is not about removing every single firearm assholes. Liberals OWN GUNS AS WELL. Liberals simply are tired of one fucking lobby holding our entire nation hostage.

"Gun grabber" bullshit slur has been screamed by the asshole NRA and GOP for decades. NOPE, no more, and fuck you. Now, either work with liberals, or get the fuck out of the way, but your fear mongering is bullshit.

Here was a ZONE that allowed guns assholes. It also was NOT a Muslim, and because of our shitty vetting system, a mentally disturbed person was allowed to keep their firearm. And DALLAS proves Civilians carrying them DOES NOT FUCKING HELP, none of the open carry assholes ind DALLAS got involved because they did not want to be mistaken for a bad guy. AND those selfish fucks slowed down the police on top of ignoring their own hypocrisy.

Yes I am fucking cussing you out, not because people own firearms, nobody here is that delusional to think they will all be magically removed. But your fucking lack of pragmatism, and utter bullshit selfishness and gullible fear that big bad gov is out to get you IS FUCKING NONSENSE.

Dont fucking sell me any bullshit that you care about reducing gun death, be it suicide, accidental, domestic abuse, mental illness, terrorist, street violence or mass shootings, if all you fucking have is "do nothing and sell more".

I DONT FEAR legal gun owners. I do fear that people stupidly think legal at time of buy means nothing bad will happen after the buy. The issue is NOT A GUN GRAB ASSHOLES, it is about preventing the wrong people from getting them.

THE NRA is a fucking profit lobby, not a rights org, or safety org, it stopped being sane back in the mid 70s when it got hijacked by greedy assholes.

NOW GROW THE FUCK UP, stop buying into their fear. WE ARE NOT OUT TO GET YOU, JUST GROW THE FUCK UP.

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08-01-2017, 11:03 AM
RE: Shooting at Fort Lauderdale Airport
Hug
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