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09-06-2016, 10:23 PM
RE: Should Sanders back out?
(09-06-2016 10:06 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  Sander supporting hillary would be the most disgusting thing in my eyes.

Well that is probably happening early next week. They are giving him what he wanted Progressive planks on the party platform.

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09-06-2016, 10:24 PM
RE: Should Sanders back out?
(09-06-2016 10:23 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(09-06-2016 10:06 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  Sander supporting hillary would be the most disgusting thing in my eyes.

Well that is probably happening early next week. They are giving him what he wanted Progressive planks on the party platform.

Then I have lost all respects for him being able to be bought buy such a person.

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09-06-2016, 10:29 PM
RE: Should Sanders back out?
(09-06-2016 06:52 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(09-06-2016 06:27 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  Trump has never faced a team of Hilary's caliber. Clinton's team has already done their research, and the fact that Trump is sailing in uncontested waters right now is not to his benefit. Clinton's tean already has the goods on him, he has a few months of running his mouth in case Clinton's team runs short on ammo, and Trump's teamgets little practical knowledge of how to deflect a major offensive.

I'm no fan of Clinton's, and before this campaign would never have considered voting for her. But her operatives are steering her straight: charge into the opponent's strength, answer the points, and use the primaries to work out in preparation for the Big Show. Trump's adviser's, on the other hand, seem to be happy they have a break. They'd better be hitting the weight-room. No one in the Republican primaries hit as hard as Clinton will. No one.

I just saw Warren eviscerate Trump. The Trump team has no idea of the caliber of the hard hitters in the lineup they face. It's not really fair. But the Republican establishment sure as shit does. They've lost to a weaker lineup twice in a row with stronger candidates and they know they have no hard hitters in the lineup willing to hit back. His lead off hitter appears to be some woman who basically claimed Michael Reagan has no better insight into his own father' character than her or anybody else. And apparently his clean up hitter is Ted Nugent. David Duke could bat either second or eighth. Same with Kim Jong-un and Putin. Wait, I think those might be reserves on Clinton's team. I might start a thread on Trump v. Clinton lineups.

Pretty sure he's got Scalia in the bullp -- uh, never mind.

In all seriousness, Trump is whistling in the dark as he walks into a buzzsaw. If I were managing his campaign, I'd be throwing a full-court press to deflate the media wind of Hilary winning the Democrat nod. Whoever is running Trump's campaign is fo sho a n00b.

Is there perhaps a little complacency?
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09-06-2016, 10:33 PM
RE: Should Sanders back out?
(09-06-2016 10:24 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(09-06-2016 10:23 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Well that is probably happening early next week. They are giving him what he wanted Progressive planks on the party platform.

Then I have lost all respects for him being able to be bought buy such a person.

Who said anything about being bought? Bernie managed to drag the party all the way back to the left from the center right that is a hell of an accomplishment for a 76 year old who had no chance a year ago.

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09-06-2016, 10:37 PM
RE: Should Sanders back out?
(09-06-2016 10:24 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(09-06-2016 10:23 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Well that is probably happening early next week. They are giving him what he wanted Progressive planks on the party platform.

Then I have lost all respects for him being able to be bought buy such a person.

You don't understand politics. Sanders was out of the running a month ago, and has only stayed in this long in order to pad his delegate count. "Why would he do such a thing?" you ask?

I'm glad you asked. He's doing that because he's interested in getting his own favorite issues addressed, and in order to do that, he will need votes. When the Democrats erect their platform, they will do so on the delegate votes, who will generally vote along with their candidate. The more delegates Bernie racks up, the more floor votes he has, and the more influence he has on the party platform that Hilary will run on.

He's not selling out -- he's sinking hooks.
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09-06-2016, 10:39 PM
RE: Should Sanders back out?
(09-06-2016 10:33 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(09-06-2016 10:24 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  Then I have lost all respects for him being able to be bought buy such a person.

Who said anything about being bought? Bernie managed to drag the party all the way back to the left from the center right that is a hell of an accomplishment for a 76 year old who had no chance a year ago.

Listen to this man, Zeke -- he knows the score.
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09-06-2016, 10:44 PM
RE: Should Sanders back out?
(09-06-2016 10:24 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(09-06-2016 10:23 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Well that is probably happening early next week. They are giving him what he wanted Progressive planks on the party platform.

Then I have lost all respects for him being able to be bought buy such a person.

It's politics, nothing to do with being brought out.
He wants the Democrats to win and part of that is supporting Hilary when she wins.
Sometimes we gotta hold our tongue for the greater good.

Trump can get away with not supporting other Republicans if he was losing because he's a fucking twat who doesn't give a shit, he just wants to be in. He doesn't give a fuck about the party because he doesn't give a fuck about getting shit done. He's only in for self centered reasons.

Bernie on the other hand is primarily motivated, IMO, by the want to get shit done.
He needs the Democrats on his side if he's gonna do that.

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09-06-2016, 10:53 PM
RE: Should Sanders back out?
(09-06-2016 10:33 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(09-06-2016 10:24 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  Then I have lost all respects for him being able to be bought buy such a person.

Who said anything about being bought? Bernie managed to drag the party all the way back to the left from the center right that is a hell of an accomplishment for a 76 year old who had no chance a year ago.

My issue is not what he has done to the party, and seeing as I don't lean left or right I personally don't care what side they were on in the first place. What I care about is something to take down the establishment. Something to make sure that corruption lowers to at least a minimum.

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09-06-2016, 11:08 PM
RE: Should Sanders back out?
(09-06-2016 10:53 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(09-06-2016 10:33 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Who said anything about being bought? Bernie managed to drag the party all the way back to the left from the center right that is a hell of an accomplishment for a 76 year old who had no chance a year ago.

My issue is not what he has done to the party, and seeing as I don't lean left or right I personally don't care what side they were on in the first place. What I care about is something to take down the establishment. Something to make sure that corruption lowers to at least a minimum.

I think you're gonna have a much longer wait, then. No man steps into the Oval Office looking to reduce its power.

Sad but true.
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09-06-2016, 11:44 PM
RE: Should Sanders back out?
(09-06-2016 11:08 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  
(09-06-2016 10:53 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  My issue is not what he has done to the party, and seeing as I don't lean left or right I personally don't care what side they were on in the first place. What I care about is something to take down the establishment. Something to make sure that corruption lowers to at least a minimum.

I think you're gonna have a much longer wait, then. No man steps into the Oval Office looking to reduce its power.

Sad but true.

I know, but it has to start some where. Hillary will hold that progress back. If there is a time to vote third party it is now.

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