Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
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13-09-2017, 05:50 PM
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
(13-09-2017 03:32 PM)Dr H Wrote:  
(12-09-2017 08:08 PM)epronovost Wrote:  Since when is evolution by natural selection a correct guide for ethical treatment of individuals in a post-survivalist society?

Are we in a post-survivalist society?

a survivalist economy is how we can describe an economy who's role and organisation is to guarantee subsistence. Our economy is far, far to productive and complex to simply guarantee subsistence. In fact, most of it serves to produce luxury items and services. Humanity as whole isn't confined to a survivalist society mode pf operation since the beginning of Antiquity and even some parts of the neolithic.

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19-09-2017, 05:40 PM
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
(13-09-2017 05:50 PM)epronovost Wrote:  
(13-09-2017 03:32 PM)Dr H Wrote:  Are we in a post-survivalist society?

a survivalist economy is how we can describe an economy who's role and organisation is to guarantee subsistence. Our economy is far, far to productive and complex to simply guarantee subsistence. In fact, most of it serves to produce luxury items and services. Humanity as whole isn't confined to a survivalist society mode pf operation since the beginning of Antiquity and even some parts of the neolithic.

I see that "post survivalist society" has morphed into "post survivalist economy", but OK.

The salient point is that evolution is neither a system nor a guide; it's merely a description of what is. Humans developed the capacity to create ethical systems because that enhanced the survival potential of the species at large. If we create ethical systems antithetical to our survival, then we will become extinct.

Very sad, perhaps, but not outside of the natural order.

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19-09-2017, 06:37 PM
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
If ethics were built into evolution, "cuck" wouldn't be a human insult.
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19-09-2017, 07:02 PM
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?



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20-09-2017, 07:18 AM
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
All lawyers, car salesmen, politicians, televangelists and many others would be in prison.
So on face value it sounds appealing.
But on principle no.
Big no.
Say no to thought crime.

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20-09-2017, 07:41 AM
RE: Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
There's simply too many scenarios that could result in different ethical outcomes.

So the correct answer is either " it depend"s

Or

"42"

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