Should i allow my child to be forced to pray?
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20-05-2011, 08:54 AM
RE: Should i allow my child to be forced to pray?
Hey, Timlin.

I wouldn't stress so much. There's nothing to be terrified of here. You seem to have worked yourself into a lather. Brain washing and tigers and bears, oh my!

Whatever your opinions of religion, this teacher isn't trying to recruit your son into his army of evil. He's doing what he thinks is right. I bet you 50p that if you sat down and talked to him, you'd meet a reasonable, kind and caring person.

If you think that what your son believes at 4 is what he'll believe at 20, you're forgetting your own childhood. All I remember from 4 years old is vague memories of preschool, flashes from Passe-Partout and Sesame Street, riding on the back of my mom's bike and learning that the word for seal in French is phoque (pronounced fuck lol). I'm also told that I attended church every Sunday and sang in the choir.

There's nothing insidious going on here. No one is trying to undermine you because they aren't aware of your wishes.

This seems to still be bugging you. I don't think that you are satisfied by your solution.

I was raised in a Protestant household by a feminist, socialist. My mother never forced me to do or believe anything. I'm an agnostic, I was an avowed communist for a very long time (now I've settled into social democrat), I'm still anti-corporate and I support equal rights with my life. My mother was also a hippie pacifist and I joined the army.

I suppose all I'm offering is the suggestion that you forget about needing to make your son anything or to protect him from anything, because he's going to live his own life and become his own man. My personal experience with my mother's parenting (accepting that there are four types of parenting) is that if you don't make, if you're just honest about what you believe, there's a greater chance that he'll dig what you have to offer anyway.

Of course you're not ready for the big questions. You're a parent. But you answer them Cool Keep it up, daddy-o.

Keep preaching the good word of nimbus, and don't sweat Santa Big Grin

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20-05-2011, 08:52 PM
RE: Should i allow my child to be forced to pray?
Dont forget you are fully within reason to explain to him what YOU believe concerning this "person" the other kids are praying to.....and that you might be wrong....then again they might be wrong.

As long as you are not dictating to him what to believe but instead informing him of different views on the topic. Use comparisons to other things he understands arent real but may be fun to imagine (like characters on a cartoon show).

I would stress again to listen to what the father in the video I linked said as he explained it all better than anyone I've ever heard. His voice has an amazing soothing quality too Tongue.

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12-05-2015, 08:06 PM
RE: Should i allow my child to be forced to pray?
If I were you in this situation, I would explain to your son why they're praying and what they believe objectively. I'd tell him that they're Christians and that Christians believe in the Bible and the Bible teaches about Jesus and God and tells them they should pray. You can tell him that you're not a Christian, so you don't believe those things. He should know he can participate if he wants and he can also not participate if he wants, but it's probably a good idea to just participate in order to avoid conflict with the teachers.

Kids are very good at learning and understanding new things if they're presented properly, so I see no reason why you can't simply explain what the whole situation is to him.
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12-05-2015, 08:12 PM
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13-05-2015, 06:03 AM
RE: Should i allow my child to be forced to pray?
(19-05-2011 09:15 AM)Timlin Wrote:  .... I want my son to respect and understand other religions....

Respect? Why?

Understand? How?
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14-05-2015, 05:40 PM
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Haven't seen this necropost before.

I would raise hell if a school was forcing my daughter to pray. Unacceptable.
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14-05-2015, 05:48 PM
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Give your child a drum and drum stick that he or she can bang as loud as they want and tell the teacher that this is the custom of prayer in your religion.

While everyone else is praying quietly, your child is banging away on the drum.

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14-05-2015, 06:13 PM
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Tell them to speak in tongues while they pray.

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14-05-2015, 07:48 PM
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Yeah, I would just ask that your child be excluded from the activities and just teach your kid why he is being excluded and why you think its wrong for him to be forced to do that. He is young but can understand if you explain it right.


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14-05-2015, 08:14 PM
RE: Should i allow my child to be forced to pray?
In a word, no.

In two words, fuck no.

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