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08-02-2013, 12:51 PM
RE: Should you have to be 18 to feature in porn?
It's standardized for good reasons, it is a UNIVERSAL standard for ease of distribution across countries. If every country started setting their own age standards according to the age of consent laws, they would completely shut themselves out from certain markets if they made it too low. From an economic standpoint, standardizing it makes complete sense.

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08-02-2013, 02:31 PM (This post was last modified: 08-02-2013 05:25 PM by kim.)
RE: Should you have to be 18 to feature in porn?
Monsieur Maggot - you confuse sex with business.

Sex is sex - it is natural for teens to have sex and laws governing age of consent for that natural occurrence are set to cultural and psychological standards - consent may vary by location, culture, etc.,.
Yes, teens younger than 18 have sex - but they better gosh darn not get caught!!! They usually don't. Laws are in place to deal with those who would exploit.

Porn is business - it is subject to laws... like what Tartarus Sauce said. Suddenly, I want fish. Blink

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08-02-2013, 11:49 PM
RE: Should you have to be 18 to feature in porn?
18 years old is the legal age when someone is an adult. Because of the possibility that a young person can be exploited by other adults, legal adulthood seems like the right call for the age when someone can decide for themselves to feature in a porn. It isn't the sex acts, but exploitation that is being forbidden by prohibiting younger people from featuring in a porn.
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09-02-2013, 12:21 AM
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It's about legal contracts, and the ability to sign one. If you are not old enough to sign a legal contract, you cannot agree to be in a movie, without parental consent. Beyond that, it's simply a matter of stupidity, and the obcession with sex in a represessed culture.

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09-02-2013, 12:49 AM
RE: Should you have to be 18 to feature in porn?
(08-02-2013 08:02 AM)Lucius Wrote:  It would appear to me that the only reason the age requirement is set to "18" is to maintain legalisation. Whether a girl is mature enough to make a rational decision about getting involved in pornography at the age of 18 or 21 is an entirely different question altogether. ClydeLee and earmuffs both make some very valid points. Once a girl turns 18, she is considered, in the eyes of the law, an adult. As such, the consequences of her actions will be dealt with accordingly. Some girls are more mature then others, despite being younger. Everyone is different and unique. As such, the effectiveness of setting the age requirement from 18 to 21, I feel, does not create much of an impact in this regard.

As for the comparison between girls having sex at 16 and participating in porn at 18, I'm in agreement with earmuffs.
I'm just quoting this to make sure you're aware that men are also involved in pornography. In fact, gay pornography exists with no women in it at all!

The legal aspects apply to males and females in porn. Just saying. And I'd say exploiting underage boys and underage girls should be equally illegal.
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09-02-2013, 07:03 AM
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Ah, a topic I feel strongly about. Yay!

18 is a good enough age. It's pretty arbitrary. Some people are mature at 18, some aren't. It all has to do with consent and the idea that children cannot give consent. I know that a lot of kids under 18 are mature enough to weigh out their options and think things through, but wouldn't we really rather err on the side of caution? What we really want is to protect kids from getting exploited and taken advantage of. Placing a hard cap on the age of consent is probably the easiest and most logical way to do it.

So, you ask, what about teenagers experimenting and having sex? That's not the same thing. I don't think, in general, a 14-year-old having sex with a another 14-year-old is the same as a 14-year-old having sex with a 20-year-old. In one case, someone is being exploited. And you might argue that this isn't always the case. That a 14-year-old might be mature enough to actively pursue and want a 20-year-old, or that the other 14-year-old is exploiting their peer regardless of the fact that they're the same age. And you might be right. There is no hard and infallible way to measure maturity. So we fall back on age, and hope that it's a good enough estimate. I know it's unfair in a lot of cases. But it's the best way we've got to protect children and young people from abuse.

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09-02-2013, 07:05 AM
RE: Should you have to be 18 to feature in porn?
(09-02-2013 12:49 AM)amyb Wrote:  
(08-02-2013 08:02 AM)Lucius Wrote:  It would appear to me that the only reason the age requirement is set to "18" is to maintain legalisation. Whether a girl is mature enough to make a rational decision about getting involved in pornography at the age of 18 or 21 is an entirely different question altogether. ClydeLee and earmuffs both make some very valid points. Once a girl turns 18, she is considered, in the eyes of the law, an adult. As such, the consequences of her actions will be dealt with accordingly. Some girls are more mature then others, despite being younger. Everyone is different and unique. As such, the effectiveness of setting the age requirement from 18 to 21, I feel, does not create much of an impact in this regard.

As for the comparison between girls having sex at 16 and participating in porn at 18, I'm in agreement with earmuffs.
I'm just quoting this to make sure you're aware that men are also involved in pornography. In fact, gay pornography exists with no women in it at all!

The legal aspects apply to males and females in porn. Just saying. And I'd say exploiting underage boys and underage girls should be equally illegal.

I am very much aware. There are numerous different types of porn which I am also aware of but we won't delve into that. The thread focused on women in porn so I was just following up with it. However, I am also in agreement with you. This applies, most definitely, to males as well as females. The same principles apply.

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09-02-2013, 07:24 AM
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Management and Governance by Threshold... always a tricky one.

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09-02-2013, 07:31 AM
RE: Should you have to be 18 to feature in porn?
(09-02-2013 07:03 AM)Smooshmonster Wrote:  Ah, a topic I feel strongly about. Yay!

18 is a good enough age. It's pretty arbitrary. Some people are mature at 18, some aren't. It all has to do with consent and the idea that children cannot give consent. I know that a lot of kids under 18 are mature enough to weigh out their options and think things through, but wouldn't we really rather err on the side of caution? What we really want is to protect kids from getting exploited and taken advantage of. Placing a hard cap on the age of consent is probably the easiest and most logical way to do it.

So, you ask, what about teenagers experimenting and having sex? That's not the same thing. I don't think, in general, a 14-year-old having sex with a another 14-year-old is the same as a 14-year-old having sex with a 20-year-old. In one case, someone is being exploited. And you might argue that this isn't always the case. That a 14-year-old might be mature enough to actively pursue and want a 20-year-old, or that the other 14-year-old is exploiting their peer regardless of the fact that they're the same age. And you might be right. There is no hard and infallible way to measure maturity. So we fall back on age, and hope that it's a good enough estimate. I know it's unfair in a lot of cases. But it's the best way we've got to protect children and young people from abuse.


Why is there always exploitation? They're just having sex. Big deal.

Our culture has made sex something other than what it is - natural.

Two teens having sex is just two teens having sex.

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09-02-2013, 07:49 AM
RE: Should you have to be 18 to feature in porn?
(09-02-2013 07:31 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(09-02-2013 07:03 AM)Smooshmonster Wrote:  Ah, a topic I feel strongly about. Yay!

18 is a good enough age. It's pretty arbitrary. Some people are mature at 18, some aren't. It all has to do with consent and the idea that children cannot give consent. I know that a lot of kids under 18 are mature enough to weigh out their options and think things through, but wouldn't we really rather err on the side of caution? What we really want is to protect kids from getting exploited and taken advantage of. Placing a hard cap on the age of consent is probably the easiest and most logical way to do it.

So, you ask, what about teenagers experimenting and having sex? That's not the same thing. I don't think, in general, a 14-year-old having sex with a another 14-year-old is the same as a 14-year-old having sex with a 20-year-old. In one case, someone is being exploited. And you might argue that this isn't always the case. That a 14-year-old might be mature enough to actively pursue and want a 20-year-old, or that the other 14-year-old is exploiting their peer regardless of the fact that they're the same age. And you might be right. There is no hard and infallible way to measure maturity. So we fall back on age, and hope that it's a good enough estimate. I know it's unfair in a lot of cases. But it's the best way we've got to protect children and young people from abuse.


Why is there always exploitation? They're just having sex. Big deal.

Our culture has made sex something other than what it is - natural.

Two teens having sex is just two teens having sex.
I might have expressed myself poorly. I agree with you. Teenagers shouldn't be made to feel bad about having sex.
But a grown man talking a kid into taking their clothes off for candy is exploitation. I was trying to contrast the two.

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