"Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"
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03-09-2015, 03:29 AM
RE: "Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"
I don't think I could. I would be quiet and respectful while someone else was praying, I would hold the sick person's hand and comfort with other words. I wouldn't attack the other person's faith, but I can't see participating or leading a prayer.

In some ways it's like asking a Christian to set aside their beliefs and lead a Wiccan ritual at their loved one's deathbed, right? Equally meaningless cosmically, but also very wrong-feeling.
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03-09-2015, 03:55 AM
RE: "Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"
Maybe something needs to be said about the person who is requesting this. They shouldn't put someone in that position knowing what their stance is.
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03-09-2015, 04:28 AM
RE: "Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"
Sometimes I am asked at family get togethers to give the prayer before we eat. This is usually a once or twice a year thing and at no time do I mention any gods or other religious figures in my prayer.

I would pray with anyone dying if they asked me to. Its their last moment, not mine. It will not effect my atheism.

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03-09-2015, 05:25 AM
"Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"
I have Christians in my life that ask me to pray for them or others. If I agree to it I keep my word. However, when I pray, it is always to father Odin or Thor.
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03-09-2015, 06:28 AM
RE: "Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"
(02-09-2015 08:58 PM)MattB Wrote:  She Regrets Not Praying with Her Dying Mother
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http://goo.gl/eHRDaa

If it were my mother, specifically, I wouldn't pray with her. That's mostly because she knows my stance on this, and her asking me would piss me off. If it were one of my two daughters, I might reconsider.


(02-09-2015 08:58 PM)MattB Wrote:  "Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"

Perhaps. Similarly, should theists put aside their theism for a few moments in the presence of a dying atheist? Would they?

This is one of those double standards that rubs me the wrong way because I'm going through this shit with my wife, right now.
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03-09-2015, 07:21 AM
RE: "Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"
I refuse to be guilted into praying. "I'm dying and if you don't pray with me, I'll never have peace (and you will go to hell)."

My mother helped make me who I am today - and now she wants me to be someone else? Sorry, no way, Jose.

In reality, my mother put me in charge of seeing that nobody prayed over her. LOL

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03-09-2015, 08:15 AM
RE: "Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"
(02-09-2015 08:58 PM)MattB Wrote:  She Regrets Not Praying with Her Dying Mother
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http://goo.gl/eHRDaa

"Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"

Yep, I would. If it would make her feel better, I certainly would.

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03-09-2015, 10:59 AM
RE: "Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"
I would've, to me it just seems like the "not being a dick" type thing to do.

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03-09-2015, 11:12 AM
RE: "Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"
(02-09-2015 08:58 PM)MattB Wrote:  She Regrets Not Praying with Her Dying Mother
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http://goo.gl/eHRDaa

"Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"

No!

As much crap as I have received over the years because of my atheism this request would be insulting.

I might sit silently but I will not pray, nor will I give the impression that I am praying.
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03-09-2015, 12:27 PM
RE: "Should you push aside your atheism for a few moments?"
For me, it's a no-brainer: hell, I continue to attend church weekly to save my mom the pain of learning that her daughter is an atheist. There's very little I wouldn't do to help my mother in her dying moments.

Mind you, once her funeral is over, you won't see me darken any church's doors (except for weddings or family funerals perhaps?) Whatev

My attitude towards the religious people in my life is: love the person, ignore the religion. In my experience, yawning indifference to religion, coupled with razor-sharp questions, is more effective in refuting the religious than a strident atheist position (i.e. don't feed the beast)

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