Shouldn't there be more cultures with near exact Noah stories?
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12-11-2016, 08:48 PM (This post was last modified: 12-11-2016 08:59 PM by seoq.)
Shouldn't there be more cultures with near exact Noah stories?
If the flood happened shouldn't there be more cultures with near or even shared Noah stories? I'm not talking about great flood stories which can be explained with the commonality of widespread flooding. I'm talking about stories that can be arguably thought of as a "Noah story". Let's even discount populations and cultures that are found far from where the ark would have been built and landed, which is not justified since the biblical narrative states that all populations originate from Noah. With even these exemptions shouldn't the cultures in the immediate vicinity of the Jews share Noah stories? Why is it a story unique to the biblical narrative?

Edit: The story is obviously shared by non-Christian Jews and not unique to the Bible. Hopefully what I was trying to get across was clear despite this.
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12-11-2016, 08:49 PM
RE: Shouldn't there be more cultures with near exact Noah stories?
because it was a unique bullshit story.
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12-11-2016, 09:10 PM
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I guess it takes a special kind of stupid to come up with a story like that.
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12-11-2016, 09:11 PM
RE: Shouldn't there be more cultures with near exact Noah stories?
All those other cultures were evil and sinful so they were totally wiped out. Geesh.

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12-11-2016, 09:19 PM
RE: Shouldn't there be more cultures with near exact Noah stories?
(12-11-2016 08:48 PM)seoq Wrote:  If the flood happened shouldn't there be more cultures with near or even shared Noah stories? [...]

The Noah's ark story is just a myth, and the same myths don't necessarily carry across cultures. And you don't need to waste time debunking myths anyway.

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12-11-2016, 09:35 PM
Shouldn't there be more cultures with near exact Noah stories?
The devil. Obviously the answer

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13-11-2016, 07:00 AM (This post was last modified: 13-11-2016 07:05 AM by Rahn127.)
RE: Shouldn't there be more cultures with near exact Noah stories?
The story of Utnapishtim in Gilgamesh predates the story of Noah by a couple thousand years (I think). Please correct me if I'm wrong.

In the story, Utnapishtim is instructed by one of the gods to build a great ship and gather animals to bring with him and his family.

Enlil, the storm bringer, floods the world.

Some mild googling will reveal other flood myths that predate Noah.

If a world wide flood happened, I think one would expect only one such story to exist, that of the survivors Smile

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13-11-2016, 07:11 AM
RE: Shouldn't there be more cultures with near exact Noah stories?
(12-11-2016 08:48 PM)seoq Wrote:  If the flood happened shouldn't there be more cultures with near or even shared Noah stories? I'm not talking about great flood stories which can be explained with the commonality of widespread flooding. I'm talking about stories that can be arguably thought of as a "Noah story". Let's even discount populations and cultures that are found far from where the ark would have been built and landed, which is not justified since the biblical narrative states that all populations originate from Noah. With even these exemptions shouldn't the cultures in the immediate vicinity of the Jews share Noah stories? Why is it a story unique to the biblical narrative?

Edit: The story is obviously shared by non-Christian Jews and not unique to the Bible. Hopefully what I was trying to get across was clear despite this.

There were a number of flood stories that are undoubtedly the precursor to the Noahtic myth.

Every one of the 3 major global-effect myths in Genesis have their antecedents in Sumerian, Babylonia and Assyrian mythology.

The Babylonian Enuma Elis has the basic cosmology of the firmament in it that the Hebrews borrowed from.

The Sumerian myth of Enmerkar_and_the_Lord_of_Aratta is where they derived their Tower of Babel myth.

And of course you have several iterations of the Noahtic flood myth in the Sumerian (Ziusudra) , Babylonian (Gilgamesh) Akkadian (Atra-Hasis) myths

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13-11-2016, 07:11 AM
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(12-11-2016 09:11 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  All those other cultures were evil and sinful so they were totally wiped out. Geesh.

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This. The core of the Noah story is that the Chosen Few were the only survivors. This reinforces Christian belief that a planetary holocaust is the proper way to correct past mistakes.
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13-11-2016, 07:17 AM
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