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12-08-2015, 12:40 PM
RE: Sick of being fat
I also love green tea; it's not only good for the metabolism, but it helps keep my cancer from coming back and keeps my immune system from saying it doesn't feel like working today.

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12-08-2015, 12:42 PM
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(12-08-2015 11:52 AM)Octapulse Wrote:  
(12-08-2015 11:48 AM)jennybee Wrote:  I could never get into Jenny Craig or Weight Watchers diet plans. Although, several of my friends swear by WW's point system.

Read that again in light of the quoted section, not the droids you're looking for. Drugs are bad mm'kay?

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12-08-2015, 12:55 PM
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(12-08-2015 12:40 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  I also love green tea; it's not only good for the metabolism, but it helps keep my cancer from coming back and keeps my immune system from saying it doesn't feel like working today.

Good, 'cause we like you and we need you around to wipe the floor with theists. And to post the smolder in the forum picture thread lol Thumbsup



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12-08-2015, 01:54 PM
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Aww, thanks Jennybee! I needed that. Hug

Edit to Add: I love her character, in Tangled.

Not only is she a good example for a feminist worldview (not the she doesn't notice "the smoulder", but it doesn't derail her brain in the slightest, when something more important is at stake), but the story is largely about her breaking out of the indoctrination of her childhood by observing things that don't fit in with her pre-formed explanations and refusing to take nonsense explanations, when it needs to be investigated on its own. In other words, Tangled is a skeptic's movie. Smile

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12-08-2015, 02:43 PM
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(12-08-2015 04:14 AM)Octapulse Wrote:  The changes I will permanently make today will be no more milk or cheese (unless a hard cheese like parmesan, romano), ...

What's wrong with cheese?

And have you ruled out any underlying medical condition like your thyroid or testosterone levels? At 280 lbs my thyroid was fine but I had the testosterone levels of a little girl. After adding testosterone and avoiding anything sweet or processed now down to 220.

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12-08-2015, 04:36 PM
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(12-08-2015 02:43 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(12-08-2015 04:14 AM)Octapulse Wrote:  The changes I will permanently make today will be no more milk or cheese (unless a hard cheese like parmesan, romano), ...

What's wrong with cheese?

And have you ruled out any underlying medical condition like your thyroid or testosterone levels? At 280 lbs my thyroid was fine but I had the testosterone levels of a little girl. After adding testosterone and avoiding anything sweet or processed now down to 220.

Really high fat content and I tend to over do it when it comes to cheese. So it's better if I abstain

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12-08-2015, 07:00 PM (This post was last modified: 12-08-2015 07:28 PM by goodwithoutgod.)
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(11-08-2015 08:00 PM)Octapulse Wrote:  I've always been a pretty big dude, but as of late it's beginning to take its toll on me. It hurts to do anything, especially in my legs and hips. I guess when your weight is orbiting the international numeric value for weed sessions it's bound to have a negative impact.

There was a time before that I was getting back on track. I read this book called Ultrametabolism, followed its prescriptions and lost 80 lbs in 6 months without even exercising. Then I met my wife and started sliding back into old habits. Having children, I want to make sure that I am around for them, but I also want to make sure that I am able to enjoy it. Which is not the case right now. I used to really enjoy hiking and still do, but it gets harder and harder to get out and going like this. I also used to be very active in kung fu, even as a big dude. You may not believe someone over 300 lbs could pull off a hurricane kick, but I used to do it all the time. Not anymore.

I guess I am just looking for moral support from the great peoples of this forum. Perhaps you have overcome something similar and have advice? Thanks for letting me vent, I am heading off to bed, but I look forward to your comments in the morning

Just a couple tips from an ol man who has been in the fitness/health game now for....35 years.

Diets do not work, they seem to work temporarily, but when you stop the diet, and rebound the weight, you will end up less healthy then before you diet. Diet, by most people's definition is a restriction of something, whether it be calories, carbs etc. There are tons of sexy new diets coming out everyday that promise to make you gorgeous in a short time, some have a basis in decent science if done in moderation with the consultation of a doctor, most have a good chance of screwing up your insulin levels, put you into a unhealthy level of ketosis, or screwing up your body in many different and dangerous ways.

SO what to do? Change your lifestyle. The key is a couple of things.

Activity level....increase your activity level, doesnt really matter what it is, and no, I don't suggest going from unfit to crossfit. Find something you like doing, even better find something you can do as a couple or a family. My wife and I go on 5 mile walks 3 times a week. it gives us the chance to talk, and spend time together, while being active. I will often go to the gym for 2 hours, then come home shower, slam a protein shake and then the wife and I will go for a 5 miles walk together...have small children? Bring them, throw them in one of those stroller thingys for walker/runners. The essential thing is to find something you don't hate to do, swim, walk, run, lift weights, hike, marathon sex...whatever....get active and stay active...your life depends on it. Love your family enough to commit.

Change your diet...notice I didnt say stop eating. In fact you need to eat more often, better balanced, and less calories....A common mistake is people get up, have a coffee soaked in foo foo juice and sugar, which is empty calories, call it FAT in a cup, and go to work....eat lunch....and by now they are starving marvin...anything more than about 600-800 calories for a man at one sitting just converts to storage...and it doesnt store as muscle, it stores as fat.....then they have dinner, and then later go to bed, and repeat the process. What they dont realize is they put their body into a fast for about 18 hours...you ate dinner at say 5pm, and eat lunch the next day at 11am....your body in the meantime went into oh shit mode, and it slows down your metabolism...then by lunch you are starved and you slam down the calories....and they go right to your ass. having an appropriate sized meal of actual food with 1/3 protein, 2/3 carbs is fuel, not fat, and when you have about 6 "meals" a day, every time you eat, your metabolism spikes....allow me to explain..

For example. At my work I will put an active healthy male who needs to lose weight safely on a 2000 cal a day plan(this is less then the recommended level of about 2400 calories a day). Remember losing 1lb per week is a good ratio actually, massive weight loss strains your cardio vascular system, there are 3500 calories in one lb, so if you burn 500 calories more a day then you are right now, that is 3500 a week, which is a lb loss a week...

So it goes like this:

0600
Breakfast, biggest meal:600 calories, that doesnt mean a donut and half a starbucks. protein/fruits/carbs/fiber

0830
snack, 150 calories, lotsa ways to get that these days...I prefer a chobani greek yogurt cup and a small handful of nuts.

1130
Lunch, 500 calories, 1/3 protein, 2/3 carbs

1430
snack, 150 calories, lotsa ways to get that these days...I prefer a chobani greek yogurt cup and a small handful of nuts.

1730
dinner, 450 calories, 2/3 protein, 1/3 carbs

1930
snack, 150 calories, all protein ( i use a casein slow digestive protein, it keeps your body out of catabolism, which is muscle breakdown)

This is 2000 calories, your body's metabolic rate will be increased, you will have more energy, and if you do some cardio first thing in the morning that can also increase your metabolic rate for the remainder of the day as well. Remember, starving isnt the solution. Your body will eat with or without you. You dont feed it actual food (protein/carbs) it will breakdown muscle for its nutrients. This is why diets suck...they reduce their calories severely, the body eats its own muscle, and they lose weight, when they rebound, they have less muscle to fat ratio, thus are less healthy then they were pre-diet...and then there is the mental fatigue and depression related to gaining back the weight. Solution? eat less, more often, and get more active....consistently, like for the rest of your life. Not a diet, a lifestyle change. You are in this for the long haul. It isn't like you are trying to fit into your wedding dress in 2 weeks and have to lose 60 lbs.

Do something you like, I hate running, I like lifting, so I lift with enough intensity to get a high caloric burn. You may hate lifting and like running, whatever...play fucking ping pong 4 hours a day, doesnt matter, just do something everyday.

Things to stay away from:

Gravy
any white, creamy sauce
sour cream (100% pure fat)
ranch dressing (100% pure fat)
Mayonaise (100% pure fat)
Fried foods


now that being said, once a week, have a cheat meal....that doesnt mean a 4,000 calorie big boy tub of ice cream, that means get a two piece fried chicken and a biscuit if that is your crack of choice...once a week.....you will find after awhile, just the smell of fast food will make you nauseous.

Have a smart phone? download myfitnesspal, free, and has an awesome and easy way to track your food, and you can scan the barcode and it will calculate your protein/carbs etc, and your daily calories based on your goal, inform you of how you are doing, gives you pretty piecharts etc...you can also type in anything in the search function and it comes right up.

https://www.myfitnesspal.com/

No smart phone? google is your friend, soon you will be surprised how fast you learn portion size and calorie impact of foods.

http://calorielab.com/index.html

anyway, I am not a doctor, and my cooper institute physical fitness specialist certification has expired, so do not take anything i say as .....gospel Rolleyes

If you have any questions let me know...post, PM, email, whateva Smile

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12-08-2015, 08:18 PM
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I'm gonna play devil's advocate and defend dieting, in a sense, not necessarily because I think it's the answer for most people, but just for the sake of analyzing what's gong on and trying to understand why it can work, but usually doesn't.

The problem with dieting isn't the concept itself, but the context. Remember that throughout most of our evolutionary history and prehistory, we evolved specifically to survive through periods of plenty followed by periods of scarcity. In other words, to put it in modern terms, we got fat, we dieted, and we repeated the process pretty much every year. We were made to quickly gain fat when the option was available, and then to burn it when it wasn't. The reason this works against us today is because the industrialized world has successfully eliminated food scarcity for most people.

For that reason, it then makes sense for the average person looking to maintain what they consider to be an acceptable body composition to find something they can more or less stick to permanently rather than playing ping pong with their body weight. There are, however, other options, and this can be observed most obviously in competitive athletes, particularly during their training phase.

Though it is certainly possible to both gain strength and lose mass, most advanced athletes (or their coaches) recognize that performance and muscle mass gains happen much faster when in a state of caloric excess, and that in order to take advantage of this but still not gain too much fat, it is more efficient in the long term to go through distinct cutting and bulking cycles. During a cutting phase, you restrict calories to lose fat (diet), with the understanding that you will also lose muscle mass in the process. Workouts during this period are designed more to minimize losses than to make gains. During the bulking phase, you eat enough calories to make sure you're gaining weight, and increase the intensity of your workouts to make sure the excess nutrients are being used constructively, but still acknowledging that you will, inevitably, gain fat as well.

If you were to make a progress chart it would look more like a series of waves than a steady line going up, but on average will go up much faster.

The reason dieting doesn't work for the average person is because of the sheer level of micromanagement required for it to not backfire. If you've got the willpower to stick to your plan, dieting in a manner that takes advantage of your body's natural metabolic patterns can be a superior option.

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12-08-2015, 08:28 PM
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I don't think diets work. I have tried numerous celebrity cleanses and diets over the years and they are only a temporary fix. You really just need to find something that works for you. I consulted a vegan nutritionist for my meal plans (to make sure I am getting all my protein, vitamins and minerals). Nutritionists are very helpful if you have the ability to go to one.
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12-08-2015, 10:19 PM
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I have seen tha fruit meats vegitables and grain works. Also no treat days unless they aredays you are a party or social gathering.

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