So. I had a presentation about Abortion at school.
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02-11-2013, 12:48 PM
RE: So. I had a presentation about Abortion at school.
(02-11-2013 10:36 AM)Logisch Wrote:  Dodgy I'm actually starting to wonder if you're really just trolling.

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02-11-2013, 12:51 PM
RE: So. I had a presentation about Abortion at school.
(02-11-2013 10:39 AM)Dom Wrote:  Sweetheart

No one like a condescending person.

Really we're approaching a grey area with the brain-dead thing, it's hard to define the moment of death. But the moment of life is easy to define, union of meosis cells to create that first cell.
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02-11-2013, 12:55 PM
RE: So. I had a presentation about Abortion at school.
(02-11-2013 10:40 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 10:10 AM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  YARP!

Do I take it that you are surprised?

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02-11-2013, 01:04 PM
RE: So. I had a presentation about Abortion at school.
(02-11-2013 12:51 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 10:39 AM)Dom Wrote:  Sweetheart

No one like a condescending person.

Really we're approaching a grey area with the brain-dead thing, it's hard to define the moment of death. But the moment of life is easy to define, union of meosis cells to create that first cell.

I was being nice, if you don't like sweetheart, pick honey or hun or sweetie or whatever you may prefer. I don't throw these around as freely as most women my age, but I have been known to use them periodically. It means that I am being friendly.

You've got to be kidding, you are saying we have been burying live people, thousands of live cells, for all that time?

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02-11-2013, 01:06 PM
RE: So. I had a presentation about Abortion at school.
(02-11-2013 01:04 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 12:51 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  No one like a condescending person.

Really we're approaching a grey area with the brain-dead thing, it's hard to define the moment of death. But the moment of life is easy to define, union of meosis cells to create that first cell.

I was being nice, if you don't like sweetheart, pick honey or hun or sweetie or whatever you may prefer. I don't throw these around as freely as most women my age, but I have been known to use them periodically. It means that I am being friendly.

You've got to be kidding, you are saying we have been burying live people, thousands of live cells, for all that time?

No no no! (And I'm sorry, I thought you were being con.) I can tell when I have a dead man in front of me, but I can't tell when someone dies exactly. But, I can easily tell when I have a living person in front of me and when a person becomes alive.


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02-11-2013, 01:13 PM
RE: So. I had a presentation about Abortion at school.
(02-11-2013 01:06 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 01:04 PM)Dom Wrote:  I was being nice, if you don't like sweetheart, pick honey or hun or sweetie or whatever you may prefer. I don't throw these around as freely as most women my age, but I have been known to use them periodically. It means that I am being friendly.

You've got to be kidding, you are saying we have been burying live people, thousands of live cells, for all that time?

No no no! (And I'm sorry, I thought you were being con.) I can tell when I have a dead man in front of me, but I can't tell when someone dies exactly. But, I can easily tell when I have a living person in front of me and when a person becomes alive.


Do you understand now?

If I put a fetus in front of you, next to a small tumor, you can't tell the difference. Not by sight, and if you take a knife and dissect them, you still can't tell the difference. With a microscope you could likely tell a difference in tissue composition.

The small fetus is exactly like a tumor, it attaches itself to the host and feeds off it. The difference being that the fetus will eventually grow into a human baby, while the tumor stays a tumor. The difference is DNA. DNA is not live. But a tumor with the correct DNA can grow to be a small human instead of staying a tumor.

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02-11-2013, 01:14 PM
RE: So. I had a presentation about Abortion at school.
(02-11-2013 01:13 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 01:06 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  No no no! (And I'm sorry, I thought you were being con.) I can tell when I have a dead man in front of me, but I can't tell when someone dies exactly. But, I can easily tell when I have a living person in front of me and when a person becomes alive.


Do you understand now?

If I put a fetus in front of you, next to a small tumor, you can't tell the difference. Not by sight, and if you take a knife and dissect them, you still can't tell the difference. With a microscope you could likely tell a difference in tissue composition.

The small fetus is exactly like a tumor, it attaches itself to the host and feeds off it. The difference being that the fetus will eventually grow into a human baby, while the tumor stays a tumor. The difference is DNA. DNA is not live. But a tumor with the correct DNA can grow to be a small human instead of staying a tumor.

Are they similar biologically or metaphorically?
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02-11-2013, 01:18 PM
RE: So. I had a presentation about Abortion at school.
(02-11-2013 01:14 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 01:13 PM)Dom Wrote:  If I put a fetus in front of you, next to a small tumor, you can't tell the difference. Not by sight, and if you take a knife and dissect them, you still can't tell the difference. With a microscope you could likely tell a difference in tissue composition.

The small fetus is exactly like a tumor, it attaches itself to the host and feeds off it. The difference being that the fetus will eventually grow into a human baby, while the tumor stays a tumor. The difference is DNA. DNA is not live. But a tumor with the correct DNA can grow to be a small human instead of staying a tumor.

Are they similar biologically or metaphorically?

Visually. As is your observation power of a dead versus a life human.

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02-11-2013, 01:32 PM
RE: So. I had a presentation about Abortion at school.
I am of the opinion that Abortion should be legal because I know that making it illegal won't stop people from attempting it. I would rather have it done under proper medical observation than in a back alley, if I had to choose. Also, I am against needlessly aborting a baby, I am of the opinion that it is a choice not to be made lightly, a other options should be considered first. I advocate abortions to be used if 1.)having the baby will in some way kill the mother/ and or the child, and 2.) If we know that the baby will suffer tremendously in life, and its better to put it out of its misery.

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02-11-2013, 02:22 PM
RE: So. I had a presentation about Abortion at school.
(02-11-2013 01:18 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(02-11-2013 01:14 PM)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:  Are they similar biologically or metaphorically?

Visually. As is your observation power of a dead versus a life human.

I didn't mean LITERALLY if you put them in front of me; I mean I know from reading and books and things when something is alive and when it is alive (for I cannot see the union of meosis cells), but it's hard to tell when someone dies.
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