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06-11-2013, 01:24 PM
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(06-11-2013 01:17 PM)Escape Artist Wrote:  sporehux

Well, I grew up under "hard" preaching. I was Southern Baptist so it was all hellfire and brimstone and "you are an absolute scum of the earth shitbag of a person" type of messages.

And I'm glad you came to a clearer understanding of my post. Sometimes I know I ramble and may not make much sense the first time around. Big Grin

OK, now I really interested. I grew up in New England and religion wasn't really spoken about in public when I was growing up.

I know next to nothing about a Southern Baptist upbringing.

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06-11-2013, 01:30 PM
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(06-11-2013 01:17 PM)Escape Artist Wrote:  sporehux

Well, I grew up under "hard" preaching. I was Southern Baptist so it was all hellfire and

is this southern baptist style. my fav



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06-11-2013, 09:43 PM
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So I was thinking..
You should make said thread!

I'd be down for reading and discussing the decision making process.
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06-11-2013, 09:56 PM
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Are you for real? I didn't think atheists had no moral compasses but now I'm starting to doubt.
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06-11-2013, 10:02 PM
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(06-11-2013 12:03 PM)Escape Artist Wrote:  
(06-11-2013 11:21 AM)KidCharlemagne1962 Wrote:  ...making decisions from belief.

Oh, I could do up a whole thread just on that. Evil_monster

First off, anything that immediately presents itself as the best way is probably wrong because it's no doubt of the flesh and any good Christian knows the flesh leads them astray.

Second off (<--- stolen from Napoleon Dynamite's "Rex" of Rex-kwon-do) anything that seems easy and obvious is equally likely to be of the devil. His way is the easy way, the broad way. So if you're facing a choice of some importance, and it seems the answer is so easy and *gasp* even maybe pleasurable, it's wrong.

The path to heaven is straight and narrow, unyielding, but it is the ultimate right way. And so whatever was difficult, whatever caused my "flesh" the most pain seemed to indicate the most correct decision.

Is it any wonder that over the years I began to associate pain or discomfort with the right choice. Whichever way seemed like the most difficult way was probably the most "against my flesh" and therefore "the most right" and so that was the way I took.

There were other things I took into consideration when making decisions - I'd consult scripture or more mature Christians or pray about it - but the Bible would have one scripture telling me one thing and another over there telling me something wholly different, I couldn't know the hearts of other Christians and so what if they themselves were being led astray and prayer, well... how could I know if I was truly being convicted of the right decision or if the devil was playing with my mind? So the truest test I had was to take the way of the most pain. Whatever my flesh rebelled against, whatever made the least sense to my feeble little brain (because God's ways were higher than mine) was likely right.

It's still difficult for me to make decisions because the way my brain works, I can see validity in almost every viewpoint. It's a clusterfuckian process, for sure, and one I'm still trying to muddle my way through.

Wow, is this really what they preach down there? (along with the scripture contradictions Smile) Me and my imaginary friends would lynch a whole town. Big Grin
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07-11-2013, 06:01 AM
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(06-11-2013 09:56 PM)Christsays Wrote:  Are you for real? I didn't think atheists had no moral compasses but now I'm starting to doubt.

Starting to doubt that atheists don't have no compasses? Consider

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07-11-2013, 06:27 AM
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(06-11-2013 10:47 AM)Escape Artist Wrote:  ...Anyway, would this be of interest to anyone? I don't [know] when I'd start it, but it was just an interesting thought to me.

Why start a new thread? Why not this one?

(06-11-2013 10:47 AM)Escape Artist Wrote:  ...
anyone else who's interested could discuss their take on it or how they've thought that situation through, etc.
...

For me, it is simple.

I just ask myself: WWCD?

What Would Chippy Do?

No

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07-11-2013, 07:49 AM
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(06-11-2013 10:47 AM)Escape Artist Wrote:  So I've had this idea in mind for a little while of a thread centering around the various moral dilemmas I now face as an atheist who is discovering her own code of ethics to live by. As in, whenever I come across a situation in my life where the answer might have been spelled out for me before by my Christian beliefs or whatnot, and where I now must consider things like personal gain vs. loss, consequences (both short-term and long-term) of my decision, etc. instead of just "WWJD?" I would post that dilemma here, give my thoughts and possibly a tentative conclusion and then anyone else who's interested could discuss their take on it or how they've thought that situation through, etc.

Each time I came across a new dilemma, it'd just be added onto the thread and then there'd be more discussion from other forum members and so on and so forth.

My interest in doing this sparked from the thread about pirating and all. I found that very interesting - just hearing all the different viewpoints and how each of you had reached a decision (however tentative) in regards to that particular moral quandary.

I'm thinking about calling it "The Immoral Landscape" just because so many out there think that atheists don't have a moral compass at all. Kind of a fun twist on words, I guess. Blush

Anyway, would this be of interest to anyone? I don't when I'd start it, but it was just an interesting thought to me.

I think it would be smashing...spot on!
Pose your dilemma; we'll comment....
And I've a few of them myself!

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07-11-2013, 08:15 AM
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Alright, it looks like there's enough interest to dive into it, but I'll have to come back later and post a dilemma. The first one is fairly silly and not exactly earth-shattering, but I'm curious as to what you guys' take on this would be.

So just stay tuned...

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07-11-2013, 08:42 AM
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Sounds interesting.
Personally, I think the Wiccan Rede is a fitting test for anything morally questionable in my life. "If it harms none, do what you will."

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it- not even if I have said it- unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. - Buddha
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