So ... Kurds - why are they so fucked all the time?
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11-03-2017, 03:59 PM
RE: So ... Kurds - why are they so fucked all the time?
(11-03-2017 04:54 AM)abaris Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 01:09 PM)kim Wrote:  Have they always been so scattered?

They aren't scattered if you look at a map. They're victims of arbitrary colonial borders. Part of them in Turkey, part of them in Iraq and part of them in Syria. All artificial constructs and not grown states.

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11-03-2017, 05:53 PM
RE: So ... Kurds - why are they so fucked all the time?
No shit about that. The entire world has been their hack job since the colonial times.
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12-03-2017, 12:49 AM
RE: So ... Kurds - why are they so fucked all the time?
(10-03-2017 04:51 PM)skyking Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 02:10 PM)yakherder Wrote:  It's gonna get worse in coming years. They're actually gaining military power, influence, recognition, and geographical leverage through the fight with ISIS. Their enemies of recent history aren't going to be okay with that, and the Kurds aren't going to be content with crawling back under a rock now that they're in the spotlight and have some international leverage to work with.
It's not without good reason that many people think the whole area is fuxored in an unrecoverable way.
When we took the supreme asshole that was Saddam off the top, the pot boiled over.

... which was, in turn, fallout from the Habsburg dissolution.
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12-03-2017, 01:43 AM
RE: So ... Kurds - why are they so fucked all the time?
Because the Turks already killed all the Armenians.

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12-03-2017, 01:58 AM (This post was last modified: 12-03-2017 02:06 AM by GirlyMan.)
RE: So ... Kurds - why are they so fucked all the time?
(10-03-2017 02:10 PM)yakherder Wrote:  It's gonna get worse in coming years. They're actually gaining military power, influence, recognition, and geographical leverage through the fight with ISIS. Their enemies of recent history aren't going to be okay with that, and the Kurds aren't going to be content with crawling back under a rock now that they're in the spotlight and have some international leverage to work with.

They wear fucking GoPros into combat and their women are more badass than their men. Apparently if a Muslim male fighter gets killed by a woman in battle he goes to hell. That's just fucking genius.








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12-03-2017, 04:34 AM
RE: So ... Kurds - why are they so fucked all the time?
(10-03-2017 06:42 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  The Greeks still call Istanbul "Constantinople." Some people know how to hold a fucking grudge.

Sorry, I cannot help myself.




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12-03-2017, 07:19 AM
RE: So ... Kurds - why are they so fucked all the time?
(12-03-2017 01:58 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 02:10 PM)yakherder Wrote:  It's gonna get worse in coming years. They're actually gaining military power, influence, recognition, and geographical leverage through the fight with ISIS. Their enemies of recent history aren't going to be okay with that, and the Kurds aren't going to be content with crawling back under a rock now that they're in the spotlight and have some international leverage to work with.

They wear fucking GoPros into combat and their women are more badass than their men. Apparently if a Muslim male fighter gets killed by a woman in battle he goes to hell. That's just fucking genius.








As popular as the IDF conscripts and the Kurds of the YPJ have become in military subculture lately, it amazes me that any male, straight in particular, would have any complaints left about women in line units lol.

Just so much awesomeness and hotness it's almost hard to believe Big Grin

Heck, this may ironically be what some of their enemies have a problem with..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...08951.html

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12-03-2017, 07:26 AM
RE: So ... Kurds - why are they so fucked all the time?
(12-03-2017 12:49 AM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  ... which was, in turn, fallout from the Habsburg dissolution.

What's got Habsburg got to do with it? The dissolution of the Ottoman empire more likely.

In any case, there's nothing remotely funny about the Kurd situation. They fight our wars, since they're the only entirely secular power in the region. A power granting females the same rights as males. A power that's divided between - mainly - three nations, that all look down on them. If Turkey under Erdogan had it's way, they would be entirely displaced from one of the homelands, if not outright killed.

We never thanked them for what they're doing. We always let others shit on their heads. Just because they want their own territory. Some place to call home without having to fight for survival.
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12-03-2017, 07:33 AM
RE: So ... Kurds - why are they so fucked all the time?
(12-03-2017 07:26 AM)abaris Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 12:49 AM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  ... which was, in turn, fallout from the Habsburg dissolution.

What's got Habsburg got to do with it? The dissolution of the Ottoman empire more likely.

In any case, there's nothing remotely funny about the Kurd situation. They fight our wars, since they're the only entirely secular power in the region. A power granting females the same rights as males. A power that's divided between - mainly - three nations, that all look down on them. If Turkey under Erdogan had it's way, they would be entirely displaced from one of the homelands, if not outright killed.

We never thanked them for what they're doing. We always let others shit on their heads. Just because they want their own territory. Some place to call home without having to fight for survival.

The Kurds being unsupported was a big complaint, even at the lower level, during the onset of the war in Iraq. We've wanted to get the Kurds more involved for a while now, but instead they have us training people who are more interested in a paycheck than fighting for a cause because we'd rather follow a path that doesn't piss off the people whose "hearts and minds" we're trying to win. That means supporting Arabs over Kurds. The result as been an underused but very capable local fighting force going to waste with soldiers who'd rather run away than fight in their place.

We didn't pull our heads out of our assess until after watching ISIS sweep a better trained, better equipped force without really even being contested.

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18-03-2017, 08:16 AM
RE: So ... Kurds - why are they so fucked all the time?
The Kurds. They have Iraqis to the south and Turks to the north. The Iraqis hate the Kurds and the Turks....also hate the Kurds. Why? Because the Kurds want to be independent. In a nutshell, that's why.
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