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26-02-2011, 03:55 PM
 
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I'm a philosophy major. We discuss religion. A lot.
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26-02-2011, 04:02 PM
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(26-02-2011 01:17 PM)Kar98 Wrote:  
(26-02-2011 07:39 AM)cfhmagnet Wrote:  Yikes Kar. Sounds like you were trying to open the eyes of the blind. I've found that it has become completely impossible to discuss socialism with people who lean that heavily into the conservative spectrum. They know what they've been told, and they're sticking to it.

I didn't even try to discuss "socialism", per se, but for teabaggers EVERYTHING is socialism. There shouldn't be ANY environmental regulations, at all, we should be allowed to shit all over the place, treat people like slaves and animals like things, but the government should be shoving probes up your raped daughter's vag before she can have an abortion, because otherwise "socialism".

I grew UP in a socialist country, East Germany, and I helped making an end of it, and those people have no fucking idea what they are babbling about when they are whining about waaaaaah soooooshalism!

Incidentally, I'm working towards an AAS in computer science, and the topic of religion or politics shouldn't even come up at all, yet they blatantly weave it into everything. And unlike actual "socialism", to wit "marxist leninist materialism" classes that were mandatory for students when and where I grew up, you are fucking SHOT DOWN instead of being encouraged to discuss if you as much as wonder out loud WTF they are babbling about.

Anyway, so this semester I'm taking 18 credit hours just to be able to GTFO here ASAP because this place is killing both of us. Fucking thumpers.
I didn't even know you had direct experience. And they are arguing with you? Talk about your armchair quarterbacks. Good luck with the degree man.

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27-02-2011, 06:38 AM
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In my philosophy classes religion came up a lot but as a discussion, and some philosopher's give up and use religion as the answer once they've thought far enough (Kant). In my college experiences I've never personally had an extremely religious teacher, though if I did I would've dropped the class and found another way. I would fail a class if it was dragging unnecessary subjects into the curriculum, unless the tests never mentioned all the religious bullshit. I did survive my American history class though even though it was being taught by a serious nationalist =p. Luckily it was history and the tests had correct answers not opinions. I've pissed off a lot of teachers with my opinions, but I've never had one who failed me because they couldn't stand my opinion.

I heard plenty of issues with teachers including one who was completely anti middle eastern, and would use any in the class as examples. How these people keep their jobs is beyond me.

I'm not a non believer, I believe in the possibility of anything. I just don't let the actuality of something be determined by a 3rd party.
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27-02-2011, 10:19 AM
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(27-02-2011 06:38 AM)Lilith Pride Wrote:  In my philosophy classes religion came up a lot but as a discussion, and some philosopher's give up and use religion as the answer once they've thought far enough (Kant). In my college experiences I've never personally had an extremely religious teacher, though if I did I would've dropped the class and found another way. I would fail a class if it was dragging unnecessary subjects into the curriculum, unless the tests never mentioned all the religious bullshit. I did survive my American history class though even though it was being taught by a serious nationalist =p. Luckily it was history and the tests had correct answers not opinions. I've pissed off a lot of teachers with my opinions, but I've never had one who failed me because they couldn't stand my opinion.

I heard plenty of issues with teachers including one who was completely anti middle eastern, and would use any in the class as examples. How these people keep their jobs is beyond me.
Descartes is the one I think of when I think of philosophers throwing up their hands and retreating back into religion. He was going really well, he started out doubting everything, proved that he existed, then went from there. But he got himself stuck in a corner and used the assumption that there was a god to get himself out of it. As I read about it, I'm sure my disappointment was visible, as he started out as a pre-Hume ultimate skeptic, only to fudge everything halfway through it all.

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27-02-2011, 10:53 AM (This post was last modified: 27-02-2011 10:57 AM by Lilith Pride.)
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Descartes was the one I meant as the example thanks for the name Magnet. I don't generally discuss philosophers that often so occasionally I will get confused with names.

I'm not a non believer, I believe in the possibility of anything. I just don't let the actuality of something be determined by a 3rd party.
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27-02-2011, 12:13 PM
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(26-02-2011 04:02 PM)cfhmagnet Wrote:  I didn't even know you had direct experience. And they are arguing with you? Talk about your armchair quarterbacks. Good luck with the degree man.

These people think they know everything. About everything. Because the bible said so. Or Glenn Beck.

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27-02-2011, 08:30 PM
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(26-02-2011 04:02 PM)cfhmagnet Wrote:  I didn't even know you had direct experience. And they are arguing with you? Talk about your armchair quarterbacks. Good luck with the degree man.

Not only are they arguing, they fucking lose, ADMIT they did lose and then smugly say "oh well, I guess we're just hypocrites then" and continue to persist to believe and further their nonsense.

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01-03-2011, 01:23 AM
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Well the one and only thing that I can see that they are right about is the fact that they are hypocrites. Can you get insurance against stupidity in Texas, or would the insuance companies go broke?

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01-03-2011, 07:27 PM
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(01-03-2011 01:23 AM)No J. Wrote:  Well the one and only thing that I can see that they are right about is the fact that they are hypocrites. Can you get insurance against stupidity in Texas, or would the insuance companies go broke?

The problem is that it's not just stupidity, it's willful ignorance. And most of them are afflicted, so the insurance companies wouldn't be able to make a profit off of the few of us who might be interested. Wink

We just move away, asap.

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01-03-2011, 08:22 PM
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(27-02-2011 10:53 AM)Lilith Pride Wrote:  Descartes was the one I meant as the example thanks for the name Magnet. I don't generally discuss philosophers that often so occasionally I will get confused with names.
Hey, that's why I'm here. Smile I love philosophy and want to spread the love.
(27-02-2011 08:30 PM)Kar98 Wrote:  
(26-02-2011 04:02 PM)cfhmagnet Wrote:  I didn't even know you had direct experience. And they are arguing with you? Talk about your armchair quarterbacks. Good luck with the degree man.

Not only are they arguing, they fucking lose, ADMIT they did lose and then smugly say "oh well, I guess we're just hypocrites then" and continue to persist to believe and further their nonsense.
.......Maybe THEY are why America is 15th or 16th in the world in education

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