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18-11-2012, 07:57 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism?
(18-11-2012 07:31 PM)Styrofoam02 Wrote:  You can look at East Berlin and compare it to West Berlin and just see which side was better off. The wall wasn't built to keep people out, it was built to keep people IN....

You're dangerously close to using the same arguments that homeopaths use. "Think of how bad they would be without their communist regimes" but this is... just silly. China and Russia both were basically feudal, Kings, lords, serfs. This is not a western democracy with a free market, and yet you imply that this was the case before the revolutions there. And while they may be better off now than under the original Chinese Emperors... that doesn't mean that this is the clear winner. Modern China, even though it looks great on the eastern shores, is full of rampant poverty. Just go to western regions of China if you want to see the real picture. Rule of Law is sorely absent in China; organ harvesting, Internet Censorship and human rights abuses are the order of the day. It is said that there is little change other than the fact that Emperor has been replaced by Communist Party of China, people being slaves to Communist Party.

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your crocodile tears about labor are laughable considering that you gladly use products that are made with parts that were made by slave like labor in your capitalist countries. Obviously you aren't that concerned about it. Wages are getting worse in the U.S. due to inflation and over the past decades corporations have systematically destroyed labor unions.

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"people being slaves to the communist party" The U.S. locks out third party candidates from debating on tv, even most industrialized countries don't do this. Again, obviously you aren't that concerned about the lack of political diversity.

The issue of censorship is also a funny one, you see, in capitalist countries the GOVERNMENT is not allowed to censor but the powerful corporations are allowed to censor and do so all the time. Remember during the Iraq war U.S. cable companies refused to have arab cable channels on their list of channels? There are countless stories of issues not discussed due to pressure from corporations. Again, you obviously aren't concerned about censorship since you are ok with it if it is the corporations doing the censoring.


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So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 15-11-2012, 09:14 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 15-11-2012, 09:20 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 15-11-2012, 10:26 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 16-11-2012, 04:06 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 16-11-2012, 03:21 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 17-11-2012, 08:18 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - DLJ - 15-11-2012, 09:27 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 16-11-2012, 12:19 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 24-11-2012, 09:36 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 25-11-2012, 08:16 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - bemore - 16-11-2012, 08:48 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - DLJ - 16-11-2012, 11:28 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Chas - 16-11-2012, 09:47 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 16-11-2012, 10:12 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Chas - 16-11-2012, 10:42 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Chas - 16-11-2012, 10:51 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Vosur - 16-11-2012, 10:13 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 16-11-2012, 10:54 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 16-11-2012, 11:30 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 17-11-2012, 10:41 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Chas - 17-11-2012, 01:39 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - BnW - 17-11-2012, 10:55 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 17-11-2012, 11:30 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - BnW - 17-11-2012, 02:29 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 17-11-2012, 05:23 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Chas - 17-11-2012, 05:55 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 17-11-2012, 06:12 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 17-11-2012, 06:23 PM
So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 17-11-2012, 05:40 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 17-11-2012, 06:17 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 18-11-2012, 07:05 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 18-11-2012, 07:10 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 18-11-2012, 07:51 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 18-11-2012, 07:56 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 18-11-2012, 08:56 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 18-11-2012 07:57 PM
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RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 18-11-2012, 08:49 PM
So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 18-11-2012, 11:42 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 19-11-2012, 11:36 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - bemore - 19-11-2012, 11:51 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 20-11-2012, 12:24 AM
So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 19-11-2012, 11:57 PM
So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 20-11-2012, 12:01 AM
So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 20-11-2012, 12:02 AM
So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 20-11-2012, 12:03 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 20-11-2012, 12:27 AM
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RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 24-11-2012, 01:54 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 24-11-2012, 02:15 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Chas - 24-11-2012, 08:37 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 25-11-2012, 03:04 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 26-11-2012, 08:01 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 28-11-2012, 12:09 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 28-11-2012, 07:44 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 28-11-2012, 09:14 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 26-11-2012, 09:46 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 26-11-2012, 09:29 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 26-11-2012, 10:51 PM
So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 27-11-2012, 10:59 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 28-11-2012, 12:06 AM
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RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 28-11-2012, 12:36 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 28-11-2012, 12:56 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 28-11-2012, 01:07 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 28-11-2012, 01:45 AM
So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 28-11-2012, 12:23 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 28-11-2012, 02:03 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 28-11-2012, 02:14 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 28-11-2012, 02:23 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 28-11-2012, 02:21 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 28-11-2012, 10:25 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 28-11-2012, 01:34 PM
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RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Vijansu - 28-11-2012, 02:28 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Vijansu - 28-11-2012, 04:02 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Chas - 28-11-2012, 05:05 PM
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RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 29-11-2012, 11:06 AM
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RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 04-12-2012, 05:56 AM
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So.....who loves capitalism? - Erxomai - 04-12-2012, 08:45 AM
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RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 04-12-2012, 10:15 AM
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RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 04-12-2012, 06:03 PM
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RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 04-12-2012, 08:57 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 04-12-2012, 10:07 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - nach_in - 05-12-2012, 05:51 AM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - I and I - 05-12-2012, 05:54 AM
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RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - bemore - 04-12-2012, 08:02 PM
RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - bemore - 04-12-2012, 08:29 PM
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RE: So.....who loves capitalism? - Vosur - 05-12-2012, 02:23 AM
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