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06-07-2013, 07:55 AM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 07:27 AM)smidgen Wrote:  
(06-07-2013 05:14 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Sorry, I was wrong. I thought you were the same person.

No problem.

Man, I am dissappoint. If he fired off on me like that, I'd have ammo for the rantacannon for weeks. Tongue

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06-07-2013, 08:02 AM
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(06-07-2013 07:55 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  rantacannon. Tongue

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06-07-2013, 08:41 AM (This post was last modified: 06-07-2013 08:54 AM by Atothetheist.)
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 06:51 AM)NoahsFarce Wrote:  
(06-07-2013 12:01 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  See... this... this right here I don't get... same with DT.

I just don't understand how a forum can become "tainted" by doing the EXACT same thing it's done since its inception.

For what it's worth, my crappy, no-good Christian opinion is this:

Anyone who has to "leave" or "walk away" from this place due to others expressing their own freedom of speech are hypocrites.

So much tolerance is preached by atheists... so many complaints of religious people being bigoted towards atheist because of their expressed view.

So what now? Because someone expressed a view that you disgree with, you leave? As nauseating as the view is, does that person not have the right to express it? Why are you entitled to your views and beliefs, but he is not?

The argument can be made that he is a predtor preying on children, but who are you to judge him? Especially, when there is no tangible evidence to support his claim. And, even if there was, that's for a court to decide, not some person on a forum.

If someone's freedom of speech evokes such an emotional response from you - especially considering the fact that it's only textual and not visual or incidental - then you may want to reconsider your own notion of tolerance.

You also may want to reconsider how an emotional response is evoked from you when prejudice is laid on you by the religious due to your beliefs.

DT and Hobbitgirl, I like both of you, and for all intents and purposes, I would consider you friends. I am not trying to "call you out" or attacking you, I simply want to shed a light on what seems to be a double standard among the atheist community.

And not just this pedo thing, I've addressed this issue many, many times. Online atheists, in GENERAL, are some of the biggest advocates for free speech until someone expresses a contrary view; they are then quick to cry for some sort of action be taken against the offender.

Again, I'm just a novelty around these part, so take my opinion with a grain of salt... it's just how I see it.

Excuse me, but since when is the disease that is pedophilia a view??? Is there some type of pedophilia church these guys are attending where they worship pedo-bear? Is pedophilia a world-view? Is there a class I can attend that might convince me to join the pedophilia movement?

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech. I've been quite tolerant of much bullshit on this site from bullshit individuals. But you never saw me making moves to get them banned. In fact, I'm not even making a move to get the pedophiles banned. I said it again and again, I only use the porn thing as an example. All you guys can argue is that it's illegal. I told you to stuff subjects like porn and pedophilia into a locked sub-forum with age verification (this is for the porn). With that suggestion, people STILL don't want anything to do with porn. I have highlighted an inconsistency here with my porn example.

No one wants porn here why? Oh, this forum was never about that from the beginning. Oh, no one gives a shit about porn. Excuse me, but I can say the same exact crap about the subject of pedophiles being on this forum. Yea, this forum doesn't want porn on here, but if you are afflicted with pedophilia... COME ON IN!

Again, what the mods do with this situation sets a precedent. You let confessed pedophiles join and interact here and you've effectively opened the door to others. Pedophiles, people with rape fantasies, people with an affinity for violence, etc...

Me personally, I'm fine with that as long as they are all civil and don't threaten anyone. But I do wonder how this will affect others. I do wonder what type of image you are letting this place obtain. Remember, the two pedophiles came here and only posted about pedophilia. Is that something else you want this place to become? A bunch of people coming here to post off-topic subjects without ever contributing to the discussion of Atheism, theism, skepticism, etc.? If that's the case, let's change the name of the forum. Take the word "Atheist" out of it. Because now it just becomes a public forum of random topics.

Again, again, again... there is a compromise. A locked, delisted sub-forum for pedophiles and other "Maybe harmless for their whole life" individuals that suffer from similar afflictions. Toss other topics in there that might be controversial. Maybe subjects like, "I fantasize about choking babies, but I would never act on it."

Want to know what tolerance of free speech is KC? Letting Holocaust deniers discuss their insanely ignorant theories. Letting truthers try over and over to cry foul. Letting vegans spread their evil hatred of meat. Those are pretty clear cut.

People confessing to fantasies of being intimate with children? That's not so clear cut.

The forum rules says that people with ANY sexual preference can join the forum. Pedophilia is a state where you SEXUALLY prefer children. They are, BY THE VERY FUCKING DEFINITION OF THE WORD, allowed to post and share their views on pedophilia, music, atheism, theism, grief or whatever the fuck they want.

I disagree with a locked subsection, only a subsection that has a warning, though even that I am thinking might be a little too much. Shouldn't people already know that it is at their own risk when they enter these, or any types of threads? Isn't it THEIR fucking choice to enter such threads?

Porn isn't allowed beause not only is it illegal for minors to have access to it (Which we have gone over) [and remember, discussions about pedophilia, with pedophiles is not illegal], but allowing porn, even in a subsection reflects badly on the Thinking Atheist community. Supplying, harboring, and being a middleman for porn is not something that TTA should be doing from a PR standpoint. Plus, that admins are in control, essentially, its their say.

There is no fucking rule that says people have to contribute to the atheism/theism section or anything. Plus, ONE OF THEM has made a post that is NOT relevent to pedophilia AT ALL, a simple fucking fact check would have prevented your mistake. The actual OP of the thread has posted five posts completely unrelated to pedophilia. Now, is that significant? No, but at least he is MAKING it known that he IS NOT ONLY HERE TO DISCUSS PEDOPHILIA.

Letting pedophiles talk about anything they want is tolerance for free speech, because believe it or fucking not, they ARE people and citizens of the nation as well.

The issue is clear cut, discussing pedophilia IS NOT a crime, and is a right that they have, if they chose to do so.

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06-07-2013, 09:15 AM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 08:41 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  
(06-07-2013 06:51 AM)NoahsFarce Wrote:  Excuse me, but since when is the disease that is pedophilia a view??? Is there some type of pedophilia church these guys are attending where they worship pedo-bear? Is pedophilia a world-view? Is there a class I can attend that might convince me to join the pedophilia movement?

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech. I've been quite tolerant of much bullshit on this site from bullshit individuals. But you never saw me making moves to get them banned. In fact, I'm not even making a move to get the pedophiles banned. I said it again and again, I only use the porn thing as an example. All you guys can argue is that it's illegal. I told you to stuff subjects like porn and pedophilia into a locked sub-forum with age verification (this is for the porn). With that suggestion, people STILL don't want anything to do with porn. I have highlighted an inconsistency here with my porn example.

No one wants porn here why? Oh, this forum was never about that from the beginning. Oh, no one gives a shit about porn. Excuse me, but I can say the same exact crap about the subject of pedophiles being on this forum. Yea, this forum doesn't want porn on here, but if you are afflicted with pedophilia... COME ON IN!

Again, what the mods do with this situation sets a precedent. You let confessed pedophiles join and interact here and you've effectively opened the door to others. Pedophiles, people with rape fantasies, people with an affinity for violence, etc...

Me personally, I'm fine with that as long as they are all civil and don't threaten anyone. But I do wonder how this will affect others. I do wonder what type of image you are letting this place obtain. Remember, the two pedophiles came here and only posted about pedophilia. Is that something else you want this place to become? A bunch of people coming here to post off-topic subjects without ever contributing to the discussion of Atheism, theism, skepticism, etc.? If that's the case, let's change the name of the forum. Take the word "Atheist" out of it. Because now it just becomes a public forum of random topics.

Again, again, again... there is a compromise. A locked, delisted sub-forum for pedophiles and other "Maybe harmless for their whole life" individuals that suffer from similar afflictions. Toss other topics in there that might be controversial. Maybe subjects like, "I fantasize about choking babies, but I would never act on it."

Want to know what tolerance of free speech is KC? Letting Holocaust deniers discuss their insanely ignorant theories. Letting truthers try over and over to cry foul. Letting vegans spread their evil hatred of meat. Those are pretty clear cut.

People confessing to fantasies of being intimate with children? That's not so clear cut.

The forum rules says that people with ANY sexual preference can join the forum. Pedophilia is a state where you SEXUALLY prefer children. They are, BY THE VERY FUCKING DEFINITION OF THE WORD, allowed to post and share their views on pedophilia, music, atheism, theism, grief or whatever the fuck they want.

I disagree with a locked subsection, only a subsection that has a warning, though even that I am thinking might be a little too much. Shouldn't people already know that it is at their own risk when they enter these, or any types of threads? Isn't it THEIR fucking choice to enter such threads?

Porn isn't allowed beause not only is it illegal for minors to have access to it (Which we have gone over) [and remember, discussions about pedophilia, with pedophiles is not illegal], but allowing porn, even in a subsection reflects badly on the Thinking Atheist community. Supplying, harboring, and being a middleman for porn is not something that TTA should be doing from a PR standpoint. Plus, that admins are in control, essentially, its their say.

There is no fucking rule that says people have to contribute to the atheism/theism section or anything. Plus, ONE OF THEM has made a post that is NOT relevent to pedophilia AT ALL, a simple fucking fact check would have prevented your mistake. The actual OP of the thread has posted five posts completely unrelated to pedophilia. Now, is that significant? No, but at least he is MAKING it known that he IS NOT ONLY HERE TO DISCUSS PEDOPHILIA.

Letting pedophiles talk about anything they want is tolerance for free speech, because believe it or fucking not, they ARE people and citizens of the nation as well.

The issue is clear cut, discussing pedophilia IS NOT a crime, and is a right that they have, if they chose to do so.

Where do the forum rules say that? I sure haven't seen it.

Now lets get the freaking side forum up so everyone will calm down.

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06-07-2013, 09:20 AM (This post was last modified: 06-07-2013 09:43 AM by NoahsFarce.)
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 08:41 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  
(06-07-2013 06:51 AM)NoahsFarce Wrote:  Excuse me, but since when is the disease that is pedophilia a view??? Is there some type of pedophilia church these guys are attending where they worship pedo-bear? Is pedophilia a world-view? Is there a class I can attend that might convince me to join the pedophilia movement?

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech. I've been quite tolerant of much bullshit on this site from bullshit individuals. But you never saw me making moves to get them banned. In fact, I'm not even making a move to get the pedophiles banned. I said it again and again, I only use the porn thing as an example. All you guys can argue is that it's illegal. I told you to stuff subjects like porn and pedophilia into a locked sub-forum with age verification (this is for the porn). With that suggestion, people STILL don't want anything to do with porn. I have highlighted an inconsistency here with my porn example.

No one wants porn here why? Oh, this forum was never about that from the beginning. Oh, no one gives a shit about porn. Excuse me, but I can say the same exact crap about the subject of pedophiles being on this forum. Yea, this forum doesn't want porn on here, but if you are afflicted with pedophilia... COME ON IN!

Again, what the mods do with this situation sets a precedent. You let confessed pedophiles join and interact here and you've effectively opened the door to others. Pedophiles, people with rape fantasies, people with an affinity for violence, etc...

Me personally, I'm fine with that as long as they are all civil and don't threaten anyone. But I do wonder how this will affect others. I do wonder what type of image you are letting this place obtain. Remember, the two pedophiles came here and only posted about pedophilia. Is that something else you want this place to become? A bunch of people coming here to post off-topic subjects without ever contributing to the discussion of Atheism, theism, skepticism, etc.? If that's the case, let's change the name of the forum. Take the word "Atheist" out of it. Because now it just becomes a public forum of random topics.

Again, again, again... there is a compromise. A locked, delisted sub-forum for pedophiles and other "Maybe harmless for their whole life" individuals that suffer from similar afflictions. Toss other topics in there that might be controversial. Maybe subjects like, "I fantasize about choking babies, but I would never act on it."

Want to know what tolerance of free speech is KC? Letting Holocaust deniers discuss their insanely ignorant theories. Letting truthers try over and over to cry foul. Letting vegans spread their evil hatred of meat. Those are pretty clear cut.

People confessing to fantasies of being intimate with children? That's not so clear cut.

The forum rules says that people with ANY sexual preference can join the forum. Pedophilia is a state where you SEXUALLY prefer children. They are, BY THE VERY FUCKING DEFINITION OF THE WORD, allowed to post and share their views on pedophilia, music, atheism, theism, grief or whatever the fuck they want.

I disagree with a locked subsection, only a subsection that has a warning, though even that I am thinking might be a little too much. Shouldn't people already know that it is at their own risk when they enter these, or any types of threads? Isn't it THEIR fucking choice to enter such threads?

Porn isn't allowed beause not only is it illegal for minors to have access to it (Which we have gone over) [and remember, discussions about pedophilia, with pedophiles is not illegal], but allowing porn, even in a subsection reflects badly on the Thinking Atheist community. Supplying, harboring, and being a middleman for porn is not something that TTA should be doing from a PR standpoint. Plus, that admins are in control, essentially, its their say.

There is no fucking rule that says people have to contribute to the atheism/theism section or anything. Plus, ONE OF THEM has made a post that is NOT relevent to pedophilia AT ALL, a simple fucking fact check would have prevented your mistake. The actual OP of the thread has posted five posts completely unrelated to pedophilia. Now, is that significant? No, but at least he is MAKING it known that he IS NOT ONLY HERE TO DISCUSS PEDOPHILIA.

Letting pedophiles talk about anything they want is tolerance for free speech, because believe it or fucking not, they ARE people and citizens of the nation as well.

The issue is clear cut, discussing pedophilia IS NOT a crime, and is a right that they have, if they chose to do so.

Fuck off with that condescending comment about making a mistake. Fact check? Do you want me to post screenshots of simgiran's posts? 5 fucking posts unrelated to pedophilia in a sea of pedophilia posts not in one, but TWO separate topics on the same subject. I made no mistake. I don't consider that a contribution in any shape or form. That's just him posting a few here and there outside of pedophilia AFTER HE GOT CALLED OUT FOR THAT SHIT. Or perhaps you want me to post screenshots of people calling him out for his constant pedophilia postings?

And for Christ's sake, shut the fuck up about the legal bullshit regarding porn. Funny you keep telling me that we covered this, but I covered that legal bullshit. You can't seem to get it into your thick fucking skull that it was a tool to compare it to pedophilia. Here, let me take your exact words and just replace "porn" with "pedophiles." Then maybe you'll get a fucking hint.

"...allowing pedophiles, even in a subsection reflects badly on the Thinking Atheist community. Supplying, harboring, and being a middleman for pedophiles is not something that TTA should be doing from a PR standpoint. Plus, that admins are in control, essentially, its their say."

P fucking R standpoint. You and I fucking agree on something. We care about this site's P flying baby panda shit R. What's wrong with you man? You think porn is bad PR but pedophiles aren't? What in the butt butt fuck man? That's just cray cray to me. You and I know very well that people with this affliction can live a normal life with. We agree on that. But from a P nut butter and R sandwich standpoint, it's a fucking (I love this word right now) nightmare. Go into a school and yell "PEDOPHILE" and look at the reaction. Then look those kids and teachers square in the eyes and explain to them how pedophiles have a certain sexual preference and that they shouldn't judge them.

Give me a break with the sexual preference analogy. I've said this over and over. YOU CANNOT COMPARE PEDOPHILIA TO NORMAL SEXUALITY. Pedophiles don't have the luxury that is afforded to the rest of us. Can they flirt with kids? Nope. Can they date kids? Nope. Can they make any attempt to get into a kid's pants? Nope. Can they look at kiddy porn? Nope. Can they go to a state where kid prostitution is legal and pay for sex with kids? Nope.

But I can do all of the above when it comes to women. But you're right, pedophilia is just a sexual preference like homo/hetero/bi-sexuality. They are the same as the rest of us.

This time, I do not apologize for my profanity. I am stone cold sober. Now I'm just irritated. I hate when people toss that fucking lame ass "check your facts" bullshit at me because they can't defend their stance any better.

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06-07-2013, 09:30 AM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
People, calm down!

What is this nasty thing that can turn us against each other?

Don't let that happen to you.

Emotions are flying way high here.

I know, I should talk, I exploded a couple days ago.

This is not a productive discussion anymore.

We should be talking solutions, not throw mud at each other like kids.

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06-07-2013, 09:43 AM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 09:20 AM)NoahsFarce Wrote:  
(06-07-2013 08:41 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  The forum rules says that people with ANY sexual preference can join the forum. Pedophilia is a state where you SEXUALLY prefer children. They are, BY THE VERY FUCKING DEFINITION OF THE WORD, allowed to post and share their views on pedophilia, music, atheism, theism, grief or whatever the fuck they want.

I disagree with a locked subsection, only a subsection that has a warning, though even that I am thinking might be a little too much. Shouldn't people already know that it is at their own risk when they enter these, or any types of threads? Isn't it THEIR fucking choice to enter such threads?

Porn isn't allowed beause not only is it illegal for minors to have access to it (Which we have gone over) [and remember, discussions about pedophilia, with pedophiles is not illegal], but allowing porn, even in a subsection reflects badly on the Thinking Atheist community. Supplying, harboring, and being a middleman for porn is not something that TTA should be doing from a PR standpoint. Plus, that admins are in control, essentially, its their say.

There is no fucking rule that says people have to contribute to the atheism/theism section or anything. Plus, ONE OF THEM has made a post that is NOT relevent to pedophilia AT ALL, a simple fucking fact check would have prevented your mistake. The actual OP of the thread has posted five posts completely unrelated to pedophilia. Now, is that significant? No, but at least he is MAKING it known that he IS NOT ONLY HERE TO DISCUSS PEDOPHILIA.

Letting pedophiles talk about anything they want is tolerance for free speech, because believe it or fucking not, they ARE people and citizens of the nation as well.

The issue is clear cut, discussing pedophilia IS NOT a crime, and is a right that they have, if they chose to do so.

Fuck off with that condescending comment about making a mistake. Fact check? Do you want me to post screenshots of simgiran's posts? 5 fucking posts unrelated to pedophilia in a sea of pedophilia posts not in one, but TWO separate topics on the same subject. I made no mistake. I don't consider that a contribution in any shape or form. That's just him posting a few here and there outside of pedophilia AFTER HE GOT CALLED OUT FOR THAT SHIT. Or perhaps you want me to post screenshots of people calling him out for his constant pedophilia postings?

And for Christ's sake, shut the fuck up about the legal bullshit regarding porn. Funny you keep telling me that we covered this, but I covered that legal bullshit. You can't seem to get it into your thick fucking skull that it was a tool to compare it to pedophilia. Here, let me take your exact words and just replace "porn" with "pedophiles." Then maybe you'll get a fucking hint.

"...allowing pedophiles, even in a subsection reflects badly on the Thinking Atheist community. Supplying, harboring, and being a middleman for pedophiles is not something that TTA should be doing from a PR standpoint. Plus, that admins are in control, essentially, its their say."

P fucking R standpoint. You and I fucking agree on something. We care about this site's P flying baby panda shit R. What's wrong with you man? You think porn is bad PR but pedophiles aren't? What in the butt butt fuck man? That's just cray cray to me. You and I know very well that people with this affliction can live a normal life with. We agree on that. But from a P nut butter and R sandwich standpoint, it's a fucking (I love this word right now) nightmare. Go into a school and yell "PEDOPHILE" and look at the reaction. Then look those kids and teachers square in the eyes and explain to them how pedophiles have a certain sexual preference and that they shouldn't judge them.

Give me a break with the sexual preference analogy. I've said this over and over. YOU CANNOT COMPARE PEDOPHILIA TO NORMAL SEXUALITY. Pedophiles don't have the luxury that is afforded to the rest of us. Can they flirt with kids? Nope. Can they date kids? Nope. Can they make any attempt to get into a kid's pants? Nope. Can they look at kiddy porn? Nope. Can they go to a state where kid prostitution is legal and pay for sex with kids? Nope.

But I can do all of the above when it comes to women. But you're right, it's a pedophilia is just a sexual preference like homo/hetero/bi-sexuality. They are the same as the rest of us.

This time, I do not apologize for my profanity. I am stone cold sober. Now I'm just irritated. I hate when people toss that fucking lame ass "check your facts" bullshit at me because they can't defend their stance any better.

So then what's the difference between Simgiran and say Theword. Simgiran makes you uncomfortable because of what he claims to be and what he says, yet Theword comes here and spews hate vitriol and lies yet he's ok lets ban the one that has yet to insult anyone because we don't like what he is. It doesn't matter if that is the only thing he has ever posted about he has not violated any forum rules by discussing it. You can make a case that someone coming out of a horrible family situation seeing someone like Theword telling them they are stupid and going to burn in hell is traumatic but I have never seen the kind of reaction to that kind of abuse that these two have gotten on a board that claims to be pro-free speech.

If you want a heavily censored board where only the party line is allowed there are tons of forums out there that do exactly that. Try Atheismplus, their mods swing the banhammer freely. Word of warning however if you say anything that is not in lockstep you might just get that ban. What I don't get is why everyone wants to take practically the only forum that doesn't do that and remove the one thing that makes it special. If it means we occasionally have to deal with a few undesirables so be it. America's free speech policy means the WBC can exist but it also means that anywhere they go to protest with their hate they are met with an even larger crowd of people telling them they are wrong and mocking them. That is the ideal don't like what someone says then tell em why they are wrong. Silencing a voice by fiat is the weakest form of argument and an admission that you can not successfully argue the facts. Do I agree with what either Ethan or Simgiran are saying, no and I have told them that. However I do think they have a right to say it and to be consistent on this board they should not be banned. Free speech > hurt feelings

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06-07-2013, 09:48 AM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 09:30 AM)Dom Wrote:  People, calm down!

What is this nasty thing that can turn us against each other?

Don't let that happen to you.

Emotions are flying way high here.

I know, I should talk, I exploded a couple days ago.

This is not a productive discussion anymore.

We should be talking solutions, not throw mud at each other like kids.

I am calm. Like Royce the 5'9 said in a song... "I used to be like, I'LL KILL YOU... nowadays I'm like, you know I'll kill you right?"

Ah those silly rappers.

I've tried talking calmly. I've tried throwing suggestions out there. None of that has worked. People keep saying "we went over this legal blahblahblah illegal blahblahblah". And that explanation has changed form more than once mind you.

Don't worry, I still love AtotheTheist. I just hate his argument in this subject and his assertion that I didn't fact check thus failing.

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06-07-2013, 09:48 AM (This post was last modified: 06-07-2013 10:10 AM by Atothetheist.)
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 09:20 AM)NoahsFarce Wrote:  
(06-07-2013 08:41 AM)Atothetheist Wrote:  The forum rules says that people with ANY sexual preference can join the forum. Pedophilia is a state where you SEXUALLY prefer children. They are, BY THE VERY FUCKING DEFINITION OF THE WORD, allowed to post and share their views on pedophilia, music, atheism, theism, grief or whatever the fuck they want.

I disagree with a locked subsection, only a subsection that has a warning, though even that I am thinking might be a little too much. Shouldn't people already know that it is at their own risk when they enter these, or any types of threads? Isn't it THEIR fucking choice to enter such threads?

Porn isn't allowed beause not only is it illegal for minors to have access to it (Which we have gone over) [and remember, discussions about pedophilia, with pedophiles is not illegal], but allowing porn, even in a subsection reflects badly on the Thinking Atheist community. Supplying, harboring, and being a middleman for porn is not something that TTA should be doing from a PR standpoint. Plus, that admins are in control, essentially, its their say.

There is no fucking rule that says people have to contribute to the atheism/theism section or anything. Plus, ONE OF THEM has made a post that is NOT relevent to pedophilia AT ALL, a simple fucking fact check would have prevented your mistake. The actual OP of the thread has posted five posts completely unrelated to pedophilia. Now, is that significant? No, but at least he is MAKING it known that he IS NOT ONLY HERE TO DISCUSS PEDOPHILIA.

Letting pedophiles talk about anything they want is tolerance for free speech, because believe it or fucking not, they ARE people and citizens of the nation as well.

The issue is clear cut, discussing pedophilia IS NOT a crime, and is a right that they have, if they chose to do so.

Fuck off with that condescending comment about making a mistake. Fact check? Do you want me to post screenshots of simgiran's posts? 5 fucking posts unrelated to pedophilia in a sea of pedophilia posts not in one, but TWO separate topics on the same subject. I made no mistake. I don't consider that a contribution in any shape or form. That's just him posting a few here and there outside of pedophilia AFTER HE GOT CALLED OUT FOR THAT SHIT. Or perhaps you want me to post screenshots of people calling him out for his constant pedophilia postings?


You made a claim that they both posted ONLY about pedophilia. Notice the word I underlined, bolded and italicized? That is what you claimed, and it was wrong. You didn't say they didn't significantly contribute to anything else BUT pedophilia, you made the claim that they posted ONLY, see I even underlined, bolded and italicized it again for you, in case you didn't get the fact that yes, you did make a mistake.

So what if he posted about other topics because he got called out on it (doubtful, because he has another reason for being here, him being an atheist.), that doesn't change shit, you were wrong.

Quote:And for Christ's sake, shut the fuck up about the legal bullshit regarding porn. Funny you keep telling me that we covered this, but I covered that legal bullshit. You can't seem to get it into your thick fucking skull that it was a tool to compare it to pedophilia. Here, let me take your exact words and just replace "porn" with "pedophiles." Then maybe you'll get a fucking hint.

"...allowing pedophiles, even in a subsection reflects badly on the Thinking Atheist community. Supplying, harboring, and being a middleman for pedophiles is not something that TTA should be doing from a PR standpoint. Plus, that admins are in control, essentially, its their say."

I was correct in my assement.
Quote:P fucking R standpoint. You and I fucking agree on something. We care about this site's P flying baby panda shit R. What's wrong with you man? You think porn is bad PR but pedophiles aren't?
I didn't say they weren't.
However, one or two users who have both claimed to agree with us on the issue of child molestation, and are out in the open about it, which makes them VERY easy to watch and it makes it harder for them to get away with anything illegal.

Quote:What in the butt butt fuck man? That's just cray cray to me. You and I know very well that people with this affliction can live a normal life with. We agree on that. But from a P nut butter and R sandwich standpoint, it's a fucking (I love this word right now) nightmare. Go into a school and yell "PEDOPHILE" and look at the reaction. Then look those kids and teachers square in the eyes and explain to them how pedophiles have a certain sexual preference and that they shouldn't judge them
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People will see that we, the FUCKING majority are against it, and vehemently disagree, the majority speaks louder than two users who are relatively harmless as of yet.

Quote:Give me a break with the sexual preference analogy. I've said this over and over. YOU CANNOT COMPARE PEDOPHILIA TO NORMAL SEXUALITY. Pedophiles don't have the luxury that is afforded to the rest of us. Can they flirt with kids? Nope. Can they date kids? Nope. Can they make any attempt to get into a kid's pants? Nope. Can they look at kiddy porn? Nope. Can they go to a state where kid prostitution is legal and pay for sex with kids? Nope.

Pedophiles SEXUALLY PREFER children. Pedophilia IS a sexual preference, not an orientation, but a preference. So what if they can't do anything that they prefer legally, that doesn't change that fact that by definition, they prefer children sexually, and thats what a sexual preference is.

Quote:But I can do all of the above when it comes to women.

Good for fucking you. Pedophiles who don't want to harm children can go to therapy, and fantasize. Sure, it might not be as fufilling as what you can do, but they can cope with that shit.
Quote:But you're right, it's a pedophilia is just a sexual preference like homo/hetero/bi-sexuality. They are the same as the rest of us.

Please be serious when you say that.

Quote:This time, I do not apologize for my profanity. I am stone cold sober. Now I'm just irritated. I hate when people toss that fucking lame ass "check your facts" bullshit at me because they can't defend their stance any better.
I can't defend my stance? Really? My stance is that pedophiles who haven't done anything illegal should not be insulted, persecuted, and treated any differently than a normal user simply because they have a preference WE (both of us, and others) find highly wrong. They should be attack on the content of the posts, and they should be ALLOWED (until an illegal act is committed) to be able to post on whatever the fuck they want. I have defended my stance, and am still doing it.

I told you to check your facts because you were wrong in what you claimed, and I corrected you.

You took it to be personal, I took it as me just making sure things were not misunderstood.

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06-07-2013, 09:49 AM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
Are we going to put up a side forum and solve this crap already or what?

I thought you men were the "fix it" people, and women were the talkers.

Why is there no talk of solutions?

WTF is the matter with everyone?

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