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06-07-2013, 06:01 PM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
And as I suggested...if you enter you can't bitch...you will have been warned.

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06-07-2013, 06:02 PM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
Oh, and no quoting or copying out onto the main pages.

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06-07-2013, 06:03 PM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 05:53 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  
(06-07-2013 05:37 PM)Anjele Wrote:  As for the Ato and Hobbitgirl thing. HG hasn't ever done anything to hurt anyone on here. Ato was again demanding what he felt was necessary cause he was missing the point and was so wound up he wasn't listening. I thought that got straightened out once he understood only to have another long 'vomit on everyone missive' to follow.

I know that Ato is frustrated and upset, I didn't want to see harm to what I know has been a solid friendship. Was using my mom voice on him. Shoot me...I didn't want Hobbit hurt or a friendship lost. Steven is lauded for standing up for new people that are upsetting long time members, I was attempting to stand up for a long time valued member and save a friendship in the process.

If you want to flame me for that, please do.

Please don't think that was an attack aimed at you. It was an observation for everyone. I wasn't trying to attack people, just point out that there are mitigating circumstances for Stevie acting out of character and HG got caught in the crossfire. Do I think that makes his comments OK? No. I do think it adds context though.

And an excuse.

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06-07-2013, 06:04 PM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 05:30 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  I've just got in from work so I'll address a couple of points.

Well I kinda think that the thread entitled "pedophilia" was kinda carrying a warning, did anyone really enter that thread not knowing what it was about? Besides, many of those people then returned multiple times when they defo knew exactly what it was about.

Did you forget our conversation about that? Your encouragement for me to post? I cannot in good conscience let people believe this shit, it is too freaking harmful. I do not run and hide, it is not my personality. If it is sitting right there staring everyone in the eyes, and it has reads and responses, and I consider it harmful, I do something about it. Not because I want to, but because I consider it important that someone does.

I do not wish to do this though and just wish you'd freaking put these things into a separate forum, where it is clear that one is entering at one's own risk.

The title alone does not necessarily suggest that it's a "love us, we are pedos" thread. It could be a scientific thread.

Also, I hope you read my comments in the clubhouse.

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06-07-2013, 06:05 PM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 06:03 PM)Anjele Wrote:  And an excuse.

I never claimed to be making an excuse. I specifically said I didn't condone his behaviour, in other words excuse it. I'm merely adding relevant background information to the situation.

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06-07-2013, 06:07 PM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 03:15 PM)NoahsFarce Wrote:  Trust me, I get all that both of you are saying. I'm just separating Internet forum culture from real-world culture. They are two completely different things in my mind. I do not believe an Internet forum needs to allow freedom of speech to the fullest. And this forum is already censoring one thing... porn. In the rules section, this is what's said about porn:

"We have users from all age groups here, porn and nudity are not appropriate."

I have a problem with that statement. Taking that statement at face value, rather than the actual knowledge that this forum bans it for legal reasons, something doesn't add up. How can porn be deemed inappropriate, but not pedophilia? Is it because the pedophiles can't post pictures? I'd like to say they have painted vivid enough images in my head with their ramblings. That's just as good as a picture. If they elicit those types of thoughts in me, they can elicit the same images in a minor's head.

Sorry I keep bringing the porn thing up, but it's right there in the rules section. So how about you guys add the REAL reason why porn isn't allowed here in the rules? Then I can say nothing about the pedophiles other than I personally think that it is distasteful. As long as the rules state something is bannable because it is "inappropriate," in my mind I'm gonna think "Well, there's very little that's more inappropriate to than the thought of pedophiles participating in a forum alongside minors." Though they did point out that the kids would have to be much younger than the ones that are likely here (which made me cringe by the way).

Please, don't explain the porn situation to me again. I'm asking you explain that in the rules IF you choose to let the pedophiles remain.

I hope we can all work around this drama. I hope a solution is around the corner.

By the way, I think Seth has a most interesting podcast subject at hand.

"Hi, I'm an Atheist pedophile."

My porn discussion was never banned by this forum!

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06-07-2013, 06:08 PM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 06:04 PM)Dom Wrote:  Did you forget our conversation about that? Your encouragement for me to post? I cannot in good conscience let people believe this shit, it is too freaking harmful. I do not run and hide, it is not my personality. If it is sitting right there staring everyone in the eyes, and it has reads and responses, and I consider it harmful, I do something about it. Not because I want to, but because I consider it important that someone does.

I do not wish to do this though and just wish you'd freaking put these things into a separate forum, where it is clear that one is entering at one's own risk.

The title alone does not necessarily suggest that it's a "love us, we are pedos" thread. It could be a scientific thread.

Also, I hope you read my comments in the clubhouse.

Yes, I did encourage you to post if you wanted to voice your opinion. I still stand by that. I didn't mean that you should enter a thread against your will though.

And you've just said you feel you have to voice your opposition to their views, I respect that. I don't see how a new section would help though in that case. How would it make you feel less compelled to voice your opposition?

Also yes, I've read everything in the CH as of the last time I checked.

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06-07-2013, 06:12 PM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
(06-07-2013 06:08 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  
(06-07-2013 06:04 PM)Dom Wrote:  Did you forget our conversation about that? Your encouragement for me to post? I cannot in good conscience let people believe this shit, it is too freaking harmful. I do not run and hide, it is not my personality. If it is sitting right there staring everyone in the eyes, and it has reads and responses, and I consider it harmful, I do something about it. Not because I want to, but because I consider it important that someone does.

I do not wish to do this though and just wish you'd freaking put these things into a separate forum, where it is clear that one is entering at one's own risk.

The title alone does not necessarily suggest that it's a "love us, we are pedos" thread. It could be a scientific thread.

Also, I hope you read my comments in the clubhouse.

Yes, I did encourage you to post if you wanted to voice your opinion. I still stand by that. I didn't mean that you should enter a thread against your will though.

And you've just said you feel you have to voice your opposition to their views, I respect that. I don't see how a new section would help though in that case. How would it make you feel less compelled to voice your opposition?

Also yes, I've read everything in the CH as of the last time I checked.

In a forum that says "enter at your own risk" I will not feel responsible for people stumbling into that thread.

I have contributed a lot to this forum, and I feel responsible for people's welfare here.

And as I said, the title does not suggest that it is a love-fest for pedos. People will go in out of curiosity, it could be about recent events or scientific discoveries. That is what you expect in a forum such as this, not a thread on why it is perfectly good and fine to be a pedo and how they are not dangerous.

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06-07-2013, 06:29 PM (This post was last modified: 06-07-2013 06:43 PM by NoahsFarce.)
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
I accept Seth's word is final thing. Hell, I even accept the legality explanation. All of that is fine and dandy.

What is not fine and dandy is the rules making it sound like porn is banned for the welfare of minors. It says that it's "inappropriate." I argue that pedophilia, amongst other things in this forum (still, pedophilia being worse), are inappropriate. Like I said, that rule needs to be updated with different language. Either say this forum doesn't want to deal with that legal bs or say it's Seth's word and it is final. Don't play the "it's inappropriate" card or else people can easily play that card for pedophilia.

I understand the sub-forum moderating will be tough. I already said that long time ago and mentioned that I'd hate to be one of the mods. This isn't an easy decision, I understand.

Whatever you do, please be specific about it. And please change the wording on the porn rule. It's BS. Nitpicking yea, but still BS Smile

Forgot to add about forum liability. This forum implements and age restriction and that's it. All liability is released. The minor lying about their age is the one liable. Here's the twist though, there's no law against lying. Another fact is that in no way can the authorities ever prove who was sitting at the computer when someone entered an adult site. Unless of course the set the minor up beforehand.

This law has always been silly. Just giving a little info on the legalities.

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06-07-2013, 06:56 PM
RE: So, whose forum is this, anyway?
Just fucking wow man... that last post by Ethan... I feel like someone has my heart in a death grip right now.

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