So why was Stalin a bad guy?
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21-10-2012, 07:18 PM
RE: So why was Stalin a bad guy?
I and I are aeroplane trails made out of mind control chemicals? Yoy seem to be the best person to ask.

When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity.

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21-10-2012, 07:25 PM
RE: So why was Stalin a bad guy?
(21-10-2012 07:18 PM)Xinoftruden Wrote:  I and I are aeroplane trails made out of mind control chemicals? Yoy seem to be the best person to ask.

Of course, questioning U.S. imperialism brings on the flag waving monkey fuck tards to make fun.

Hey stupid your reality shows are on, get the fuck off
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21-10-2012, 07:29 PM
RE: So why was Stalin a bad guy?
(21-10-2012 07:25 PM)I and I Wrote:  
(21-10-2012 07:18 PM)Xinoftruden Wrote:  I and I are aeroplane trails made out of mind control chemicals? Yoy seem to be the best person to ask.

Of course, questioning U.S. imperialism brings on the flag waving monkey fuck tards to make fun.

Hey stupid your reality shows are on, get the fuck off

First of all I'm in canada and could hardly care less.

Second I WATCH SPONGEBOB MOTHAFUCKA

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21-10-2012, 07:31 PM
RE: So why was Stalin a bad guy?
I love it.
Nobody has posted anything that would show Stalin to be a bad guy and the fact that I am asking for evidence challenges the long held fantasy american bullshit propaganda.

Challenging long held american beliefs, like capitalism is good and the U.S. loves giving people freedom or commies are bad guys always brings out the cockroaches of stupidity.
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21-10-2012, 07:32 PM
RE: So why was Stalin a bad guy?
(21-10-2012 07:29 PM)Xinoftruden Wrote:  
(21-10-2012 07:25 PM)I and I Wrote:  Of course, questioning U.S. imperialism brings on the flag waving monkey fuck tards to make fun.

Hey stupid your reality shows are on, get the fuck off

First of all I'm in canada and could hardly care less.

Second I WATCH SPONGEBOB MOTHAFUCKA


So you don't have any evidence that stalin was some bad guy either.
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21-10-2012, 07:39 PM
RE: So why was Stalin a bad guy?
I don't think he was a bad person. I think he made some poor descions in pursuit of the greater good and was painted in a negative light because of this.

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21-10-2012, 07:43 PM
RE: So why was Stalin a bad guy?
(21-10-2012 07:31 PM)I and I Wrote:  I love it.
Nobody has posted anything that would show Stalin to be a bad guy and the fact that I am asking for evidence challenges the long held fantasy american bullshit propaganda.

Challenging long held american beliefs, like capitalism is good and the U.S. loves giving people freedom or commies are bad guys always brings out the cockroaches of stupidity.

Seriously? Mass starvation, mass executions, purges, pogroms aren't enough?

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21-10-2012, 07:44 PM
RE: So why was Stalin a bad guy?
(21-10-2012 07:39 PM)Xinoftruden Wrote:  I don't think he was a bad person. I think he made some poor descions in pursuit of the greater good and was painted in a negative light because of this.

Really? He was just misunderstood? Or just unlucky?

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21-10-2012, 07:46 PM
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21-10-2012, 07:47 PM
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(21-10-2012 06:18 PM)I and I Wrote:  
(21-10-2012 05:57 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Probably never in grade school since I grew up post cold war and they didn't bombard us with anti Russia talk like the generation before me. So I knew little apart from the rise if the cold war. Never any details or history about Russia.

Most I learned info when helping my ex gf with courses when she was a Russian major then minor student at university. There was a lot on topics of a course about revolutions and just Russian history. I read some book on Trotsky which had some letters he wrote in exhile and other info pushed up to say these things.

Probably the most likely propaganda pieces were a Lenin biography I read and some charts that float often showing presumed death tolls of Saddam to Gaddafi, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

Gaddafi-He was nothing compared mass murderers or any other western leader that hated him. Saddam did kill millions of Iranians when the U.S. was backing him and arming his military, the west also helped Saddam to develop chemical weapons to be used against Iran during their war. So yes, Saddam was a bad guy, he was a bad guy when the west was funding him...next

Hitler was just a capitalist stooge that was loved by every capitalist business man in america, france and england, then after the war the U.S. used his nazi scientists to develop weapons among many other things. next

Mao like Stalin has no numbers to verify that they killed massive amounts of people. One of the predicable responses is "the famines" A famine under a capitalist nation is never considered a fault of capitalism in mainstream news so to be fair, one can't automatically assume that a famine under Mao or Stalin was because of the economic system either.

Understanding what you are getting at is really confusing all of your random quips and statements of generalizations of what you call mainstream media or attacks on America as if people are arguing it's a global force if good.

All of those on this thread plus your other thread about Libya uprising make no connection. To any media i've followed or watched I thought was still mainstream. The only people i've heard say the Arab uprisings were spontaneous are conservative politicians and media doing so to praise Bush or blame Obama. All of this seems to fit the bubble if your message.

Yes media and history due blame governments when they fail to handle famines. The English are always blamed for letting the Irish suffer under their control during the potato famine. The dust bowl is seen as part of the US governments failure in total of all that was of the great depression disaster in history books. Saying those deaths are irrelevant or less impactful to a failed policy is wrong. A governorments role is to have a way the people can be protected against mayhem.

From things I read Stalin from the 30s up had sentenced to death just under a million revolutionaries and there was over 2.5 million or so in prison when he died. Not all those died but these numbers don't count the other killings occurring when he took control after Lenin passed. It's still an example if bad politics and dictatorship control how he pushed away his detractors in other communist/socialist views that might of been less overbearing.

Not that Lenin and Trotsky were opposed to killing as Lenindid if as well when he thought people were trying to sabotage the system. I think any single view with strong control is destined to lead to failure.

If your whole point is the west is not all good and the bad guys are overhyped.. No shit, there isn't good and bad in that way. Who are you arguing thinks so.. oh that's right, your friend the mainstream media.

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